Mr. BALL. Have a tie on? Mr. ABLES. No. Mr. BALL. Then you were dressed about like you are dressed today, is that right? Mr. ABLES. Yes. Mr. BALL. Off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. BALL. Were you given any instructions when you went into the showup room? Mr. ABLES. No, sir; none whatever. Mr. BALL. Had you ever been in a showup before? Mr. ABLES. No. Mr. BALL. Had you ever heard of officers or employees of the Police Department being used in a showup before? Mr. ABLES. Yes, sir; I have. I hadn't until I went to work for the police department. Mr. BALL. Did you ever afterwards? Mr. ABLES. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Tell me, it is your conclusion I know, but tell me briefly what you learned as to the practice of the police department of using jail employees or officers in showups? You can generalize. I am not holding you down as to where you learned it. Tell me what you learned about it? Mr. ABLES. Well, only times that I have heard that--I have never seen a police officer or employee used in a showup but only times I have heard of them being used is when they need somebody in a hurry, or need somebody to do that. Well, to more or less look like they belong in a showup or something. Mr. BALL. Somebody that looks like the prisoner who is in the showup? Mr. ABLES. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Were you aware when you went in there that you would be asked certain questions? Mr. ABLES. No, sir. Mr. BALL. You were not? When you went in there where did you stand in the line? Mr. ABLES. I was No. 4. Mr. BALL. That would be facing the audience? Mr. ABLES. Yes. Mr. BALL. You were aware then that you were No. 4 in this? Mr. ABLES. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. That would be you were on the left, on the right, facing the audience? Mr. ABLES. Be on the left. Mr. BALL. Left facing the audience, is that right? Mr. ABLES. Yes. Mr. BALL. Your left? Mr. ABLES. My left. Mr. BALL. Your left, facing the audience. The detective there, did he ask you any questions? Mr. ABLES. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What did he ask you? Mr. ABLES. As I recall, he asked me where I was from and what my occupation was and where I went to high school. Mr. BALL. And where what? Mr. ABLES. Where I went to high school. Mr. BALL. Did he ask your name? Mr. ABLES. No, sir; not that I recall. Mr. BALL. What did you answer? Mr. ABLES. When he asked where I was from I told him Dallas. I don't recall what I told him when he asked my occupation. Mr. BALL. Did you tell him you were a jail clerk? Mr. ABLES. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Gave him a fictitious occupation? Mr. ABLES. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. When he asked you where you went to high school, where did you tell him? Mr. ABLES. I believe I told him Dallas. I'm not quite sure on that. Mr. BALL. Do you know the name of the detective that asked you the questions? Mr. ABLES. No, sir; I don't. Mr. BALL. Could you hear anything from the audience? Mr. ABLES. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Did Oswald say anything?