Mr. LUJAN. Possession of narcotics. Mr. BALL. How long were you there? Mr. LUJAN. Three years. Mr. BALL. Then where did you go? Mr. LUJAN. I got out and started working at Schepps. Schepps Wholesale Groceries. Mr. BALL. Then where did you go? Mr. LUJAN. T. & W. Mr. BALL. From Schepps? You're still there? Mr. LUJAN. No; T. & W. Meat Co. Mr. BALL. What? Mr. LUJAN. T. & W. Mr. BALL. How long did you work for Schepps? Mr. LUJAN. Three and a half years. Mr. BALL. Then where did you go? Mr. LUJAN. T. & W. Mr. BALL. I see. November 22, 1963, you were in jail, weren't you? Mr. LUJAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. What was the charge? Mr. LUJAN. Investigation. Mr. BALL. Of what? Mr. LUJAN. Investigation of narcotics. Mr. BALL. Of narcotics? Mr. LUJAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. And when were you arrested? Mr. LUJAN. I was arrested the day before that. Mr. BALL. That is, November 22--21? Mr. LUJAN. Yes; day before the assassination. Mr. BALL. Before the assassination? Mr. LUJAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. How long did you stay in jail? Mr. LUJAN. Until Sunday. Mr. BALL. Then did they release you? Mr. LUJAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. You were not charged with anything? Mr. LUJAN. No. Mr. BALL. Now, are they--on Friday, November 22, 1963, did you take part in a showup? Mr. LUJAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. What time of day was it? Mr. LUJAN. It was--I don't recall, about 1 o'clock, probably in the afternoon. Mr. BALL. Was it in the afternoon? Mr. LUJAN. I don't remember. Mr. BALL. Or what? Mr. LUJAN. That was a Saturday. Mr. BALL. Saturday, yes. You didn't take part in any showups on Friday? Mr. LUJAN. No; just one showup and Saturday---- Mr. BALL. So, Saturday you took part in one showup? Mr. LUJAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Who asked you to do that? Mr. LUJAN. An officer went in there and told me to stand up and I stand up and he looked at me and said, "Come out." So, I came out, and he went and got three more. Mr. BALL. Got three more? Mr. LUJAN. Got three more fellows. Mr. BALL. Three more fellows from jail? Mr. LUJAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you know them? Mr. LUJAN. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Had you ever seen them before? Mr. LUJAN. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Have you ever seen them since? Mr. LUJAN. No, sir. Mr. BALL. What did they look like? Mr. LUJAN. About my size, darker. Mr. BALL. What is your size? What is your weight? Mr. LUJAN. Weigh about 170. Mr. BALL. What is your height? Mr. LUJAN. About 5'8". Mr. BALL. And your hair is dark? Mr. LUJAN. Black. Mr. BALL. It is black hair. And your eyes? Mr. LUJAN. Brown. Mr. BALL. And brown, and your complexion? Mr. LUJAN. Olive. Mr. BALL. Are you of Mexican descent? Mr. LUJAN. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. You are very fair in color for a Mexican. Mr. LUJAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. You have fair skin, haven't you? Mr. LUJAN. Yes. Mr. BALL. What did the other man look like in the showup with you? Mr. LUJAN. Oh, about my coloring, and about---- Mr. BALL. Same coloring? Mr. LUJAN. Yes.