Mr. HILL. Right as I sat down in the car, he apparently had it in his belt, and as he started to sit down, he handed it to me. I was already in the car and seated. Mr. BELIN. Now I am going to hand you what has been marked Commission Exhibit 143. Would you state if you know what this is? Mr. HILL. This is a .38 caliber revolver. Smith & Wesson, with a 2" barrel that would contain six shells. It is an older gun that has been blue steeled, and has a worn wooden handle. Mr. BELIN. Have you ever seen this gun before? Mr. HILL. I am trying to see my mark on it to make sure, sir. I don't recall specifically where I marked it, but I did mark it, if this is the one. I don't remember where I did mark it, now. Here it is, Hill right here, right in this crack. Mr. BELIN. Officer, you have just pointed out a place which I will identify as a metal portion running along the butt of the gun. Can you describe it any more fully? Mr. HILL. It would be to the inside of the pistol grip holding the gun in the air. It would begin under the trigger guard to where the last name H-i-l-l is scratched in the metal. Mr. BELIN. Who put that name in there? Mr. HILL. I did. Mr. BELIN. When did you do that? Mr. HILL. This was done at approximately 4 p.m., the afternoon of Friday, November 22, 1963, in the personnel office of the police department. Mr. BELIN. Did you keep that gun in your possession until you scratched your name on it? Mr. HILL. Yes, sir; I did. Mr. BELIN. Was this gun the gun that Officer Carroll handed to you? Mr. HILL. And identified to me as the suspect's weapon. Mr. BELIN. This is what has now been marked as Commission Exhibit 143, is that correct? Mr. HILL. Yes, sir; that is what it says. Mr. BELIN. It also says the number on this sack in kind of a red ink or something "C15" on it, too, is that right? Mr. HILL. It has C15, and on the other side it has 176-G, whatever that is. Mr. BELIN. And then we have marked Commission Exhibit 143? Mr. HILL. Right. Mr. BELIN. Now, you said as the driver of the car, Bob Carroll, got in the car, he handed this gun to you? Mr. HILL. Right, sir. Mr. BELIN. All right, then, would you tell us what happened? What was said and what was done? Mr. HILL. Then I broke the gun open to see how many shells it contained and how many live rounds it had in it. Mr. BELIN. How many did you find? Mr. HILL. There were six in the chambers of the gun. One of them had an indention in the primer that appeared to be caused by the hammer. There were five others. All of the shells at this time had indentions. All of the shells appeared to have at one time or another scotch tape on them because in an area that would have been the width of a half inch strip of scotch tape, there was kind of a bit of lint and residue on the jacket of the shell. Mr. BELIN. Did you ever mark those? Mr. HILL. I can say that I marked all six of them.