Mr. BELIN. I want to take you back to November 22, 1963. This was the day that President Kennedy was assassinated. How did you find out about the assassination, Mr. Brewer? Mr. BREWER. We were listening to a transistor radio there in the store, just listening to a regular radio program, and they broke in with the bulletin that the President had been shot. And from then, that is all there was. We listened to all of the events. Mr. BELIN. Did you hear over the radio that the President had died? Mr. BREWER. I heard a rumor. They said that--one of the Secret Service men said that the President had died, and said that was just a rumor. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember hearing anything else over the radio concerning anything that happened that afternoon? Mr. BREWER. Well, they kept reconstructing what had happened and what they had heard, and they talked about it in general. There wasn't too much to talk about. They didn't have all the facts, and just repeated them mostly. And they said a patrolman had been shot in Oak Cliff. Mr. BELIN. Is Oak Cliff the area in which your shoe store was located? Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir. Mr. BELIN. All right, would you describe what happened after you heard on the radio that an officer had been shot? Mr. BREWER. Well, there was heard a siren coming down East Jefferson headed toward West Jefferson. Mr. BELIN. What is the dividing street between East and West Jefferson? Mr. BREWER. Beckley. Mr. BELIN. How far is Beckley from your store? Mr. BREWER. Two blocks. Mr. BELIN. Two blocks to the east or to the west? Mr. BREWER. There is Zangs to the east. The first street is Zangs and the next street is Beckley. Mr. BELIN. The first street east is Zangs Boulevard and the next street is Beckley? Mr. BREWER. Yes, right. Mr. BELIN. Is your store located to the north or south side of Jefferson? Mr. BREWER. On the north. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. BREWER. I looked up and out towards the street and the police cars---- Mr. BELIN. When you looked up, did you step out of the store at all? Mr. BREWER. No; I was still in the store behind the counter, and I looked up and saw the man enter the lobby. Mr. BELIN. When you say the lobby of your store, first let me ask you to describe how is--how wide is your store, approximately? Mr. BREWER. About 20 feet. Mr. BELIN. All right, is the entrance to your store right on the sidewalk? Mr. BREWER. The entrance to the store is about 15 feet from the sidewalk, front doors. Mr. BELIN. The front doors? Mr. BREWER. Yes; they are recessed, and then there is windows, show windows on each side. Mr. BELIN. This would be, if we were--if we would take a look at the letter "U," or see the letter "V," your doorway would be at the bottom part of the letter and the show cases would be at the sides of the letter, is that correct? Mr. BREWER. Yes. Mr. BELIN. What you call this lobby, that is the area between the sidewalk and your front door, is that correct? Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.