Mrs. MURRET. Well, Lee wasn't working about that time, and my son Gene was over in Mobile, and he hadn't seen Lee for a long time, and he had asked if we could bring Lee over so he could see him. Gene had graduated from Loyola and had went into the Service. He was in there for about 3 years, and when they were activated, they went into Germany and everything, and when he came back he entered law school and went to law school. Mr. JENNER. At Loyola? Mrs. MURRET. Yes, for 3 years, and then he decided to become a Jesuit. Mr. JENNER. A Jesuit priest? Mrs. MURRET. Yes. So he was over at Mobile by then, and naturally when I wrote to him I told him about Lee, and he said he would like very much to see Lee, and that he would like for Lee to come up there and bring Marina up and visit him, so we arranged to take Marina and Lee up to Mobile. We left on a Saturday around noon, and I believe Joyce was with us, and also her two children. Mr. JENNER. How long were you gone on that trip? Mrs. MURRET. Well, we came back that Sunday afternoon, or, we left there about 2 o'clock, I think it was. Mr. JENNER. Had there been any discussion in advance about Lee giving a lecture or anything to the boys there at that school? Mrs. MURRET. Not that I know of. Mr. JENNER. What's the name of that school, Mrs. Murret? Mrs. MURRET. What school is that? Mr. JENNER. At Mobile? Mrs. MURRET. Where Gene was? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. MURRET. The Jesuit House of Study. Mr. JENNER. The Jesuit House of Study at Mobile, Ala.? Mrs. MURRET. Yes, Mobile. So Gene asked us to bring Lee and Marina over, and, you see, they allow a speaker over there at that school so many times a year, and he said maybe Lee could speak on his experiences in Russia. Mr. JENNER. Then there was a discussion in advance of Lee's going over there about his speaking, is that right? Mrs. MURRET. Only that he might speak about his experiences in Russia is all. There wasn't anything else arranged that I know of, I don't think. Mr. JENNER. Was this in a conversation between you and your son? Mrs. MURRET. No, by letter that was. Mr. JENNER. By letter? Mrs. MURRET. Yes. We never would get to see Gene, you see, unless we would go over there. He wasn't supposed to call us on the phone or anything like that. But they do allow you to visit every so often. Mr. JENNER. Is he allowed to call you by telephone if it's important and he gets permission? Mrs. MURRET. No, he's not supposed to use the phone to call home. Mr. JENNER. But he may write you? Mrs. MURRET. Yes, and then we visit so many times a year--I mean, we go up there, but that's all. Now, we call him, like on holidays and things like that. We are allowed to do that. Mr. JENNER. But he can't call you? Mrs. MURRET. No, he can't call us. Mr. JENNER. Why is that? Mrs. MURRET. Well, they just don't like it. Mr. JENNER. Do they like you to call up there? In other words, do they mind if you call him?