Mr. JENNER. All right; what happened after Marina and Mrs. Paine arrived? Mr. MURRET. Well, after we greeted them and everything, we decided to go up to the apartment on Magazine, and I had Lee ride with me, I think, and the others rode in the station wagon behind us. Mr. JENNER. Lee rode with you? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Was the station wagon pretty packed with the luggage and everything? Mr. MURRET. Yes; it was pretty loaded, because Mrs. Paine had her two children with her. Mr. JENNER. While they were living on Magazine Street, did they come and visit you or your family at your home? Mr. MURRET. Well, if they did, it was while I wasn't there. They must have come in the daytime. Mr. JENNER. Now, tell me about the trip over to Mobile; who went over? Mr. MURRET. My daughter Joyce, her two children, and Marina and the baby, and Lee. Mr. JENNER. How did this come about? Mr. MURRET. Well, her brother being in the seminary, he heard that Lee was here and he wanted to see him. He wondered if we could bring Lee up there to visit him, because he said he would like to see him. Mr. JENNER. Then it wasn't at Lee's request that this trip was made over to Mobile? Mr. MURRET. Oh, no. Mr. JENNER. Did you drive them over? Mr. MURRET. That's right. Mr. JENNER. How long were you there? Mr. MURRET. Oh, just from Saturday morning to Sunday evening. Mr. JENNER. Did Lee give some kind of an address to the students over there? Mr. MURRET. Yes; but it was just for the faculty and the school over there. Mr. JENNER. Just for the boys and the faculty at the school? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Were you there? Mr. MURRET. I was there--not to listen to the speech now, but we were on the grounds. Mr. JENNER. But you didn't listen to the talk Lee gave at all? Mr. MURRET. No. Mr. JENNER. How about Marina? Mr. MURRET. No; Marina and my wife--none of us went in. Mr. JENNER. So you returned to New Orleans the next day, is that right? Mr. MURRET. Yes; that's right. Mr. JENNER. Did you pay all the expenses of that trip? Mr. MURRET. Yes; I did. Mr. JENNER. Was Lee Oswald making very much money at that time? Mr. MURRET. I don't remember that. I didn't ask him that, how much he was making. Mr. JENNER. What was your impression? Mr. MURRET. My impression was that he didn't have money to pay for the trip or the motel or anything. Mr. JENNER. You paid it? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever see any communistic literature or leaflets or pamphlets relating to communism, or anything like that that could be termed subversive in any sense of the word, in Lee Oswald's apartment? Mr. MURRET. Well, I saw a picture in his apartment, a picture of Castro, on the mantel there. Mr. JENNER. On the mantel? Mr. MURRET. Yes; it was there after he was arrested. Mr. JENNER. Last summer? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. In August it was there? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever see Lee in a television interview here?