Mr. MURRET. Well, no; but I heard him over the radio. Mr. JENNER. The radio? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Tell me about that. Mr. MURRET. Well, he called up my wife and told her that he was going to be on television, so we turned on the television, but he was on the radio instead. Mr. JENNER. You did hear him on the radio; did you listen to the program? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir; not all of it, but enough of it. Mr. JENNER. Mr. Murret, did you ever try to teach Lee how to drive an automobile? Mr. MURRET. No; I didn't try to teach him that, but I tried to teach him to talk American to his little child. Mr. JENNER. What was your discussion with him on that? Mr. MURRET. There was no discussion. I just told him, I said, "Why don't you teach your child how to speak the English language?" But he didn't give me an answer to that. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever have a discussion with him as to why he left Russia? Mr. MURRET. No. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever have any discussion with him as to his political views in connection with Russia, as to what he thought of Russia? Mr. MURRET. No, I didn't. To tell you the truth, after he defected to Russia and went there to live and everything, I just let it go out the window. I figured, "What's the use?" and then after he came back here and got into this radio thing about Castro, and communism, and these leaflets and all, I didn't worry myself any more about him. My main concern was keeping peace in the family and seeing that he didn't disrupt anything around there. Mr. JENNER. In other words, you sort of gave up on him? Mr. MURRET. I sure did, but now, Marina, I asked her how she liked America, and her face broke out in a big smile, like a fresh bloom, and she said, "I like America." Mr. JENNER. Now, Mr. Murret, did anything occur that I haven't asked you about that you think might be helpful to the Commission in its investigation of all the circumstances and facts surrounding this matter? Mr. MURRET. No. Mr. JENNER. Now, you have the privilege of reading and signing your deposition, or you can waive that privilege and let the reporter transcribe your testimony, and it will be forwarded to Washington. What do you prefer to do in that respect? Mr. MURRET. I will waive it. Mr. JENNER. You wish to waive the reading and signing of your deposition? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir; that's right. Mr. JENNER. All right, thank you for coming in, Mr. Murret; that's all the questions I have. Mr. MURRET. He was a hard one to get to know. You just couldn't get to know him at all, and I don't think he had much consideration for anyone, especially for his mother. Mr. JENNER. You arrived at that opinion over the period of time that you had contact with him? Mr. MURRET. Yes; and the thing that was so odd to me was that he seemed to always be trying to prove himself, that he was so independent. For example, he wouldn't let me help him with the luggage, and things like that. He wanted to do it all himself.