Mr. LIEBELER. Did you form an opinion about Oswald's general character from your observations and experience with him in 1963? Mr. MURRET. In the summer of 1963? Mr. LIEBELER. Yes. Mr. MURRET. Actually, he probably didn't have any other choice of doing anything. It was kind of hard, I guess, for him to get along. Like I say, his appearance in general--I mean, just by looking at him, he just didn't have the clothes or anything to do anything right. In other words, everything that he did was wrong if he did go look for a job and get turned down and so forth. It was kind of hard for him after a bit. Someone would have helped him, but he didn't actually need any help. He wanted to do it on his own. You could have helped him, you know, but he just didn't want any help. He wouldn't ask for anything, I know that, he wouldn't ask for anything. Mr. LIEBELER. He struck you as sort of an independent, proud sort of fellow? Mr. MURRET. He was proud, there is no doubt about it. He was proud. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you think he was a fairly bright fellow, or did you form an opinion about his intelligence? Mr. MURRET. He was bright and he impressed me--you know, bright in a different sense of the word. Now whether he thought in the right direction, I really don't know, but he was--but he improved particularly, you know, from the younger years that I had known him. He had improved tremendously as far as intelligence is concerned and his vocabulary, and evidently he tried to impress people, you know, with it, but he was impressive, he was impressive. Mr. LIEBELER. He seemed to speak well and was articulate? Mr. MURRET. Right, he was. He used words that an ordinary individual wouldn't use in conversation. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you know that he was arrested by the New Orleans Police Department some time during the summer of 1963 in connection with some difficulties that he got into when he was distributing Fair Play for Cuba Committee literature? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. When did you learn that? Mr. MURRET. Well, when it was in the paper or when it was on television. Mr. LIEBELER. At the time? Mr. MURRET. At the time. Either that or my parents had told me. I don't recall. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you have anything to do with getting him out of jail? Mr. MURRET. Nothing at all. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you know that he was on a radio debate over at WDSU? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you hear him? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. I understand that Oswald actually called the house out there and told you that he was going to be on the radio, did he not? Mr. MURRET. Right. He sure did. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you have any discussions with him or see him after the radio debate? Mr. MURRET. If I did see him, I didn't discuss it, you know, with him. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever at any time discuss with him this Fair Play for Cuba Committee episode or his radio debate or anything in connection with those events? Mr. MURRET. No, sir.