Mr. LIEBELER. Do I understand that your sister was involved in the events that led to Oswald's release from jail? Is that correct? Mr. MURRET. To my understanding, she was. Mr. LIEBELER. Did she tell you that? Mr. MURRET. Did she tell me that? That is my oldest sister. Mr. LIEBELER. What is her name? Mr. MURRET. Joyce O'Brien. Mr. LIEBELER. Where does she live? Mr. MURRET. She lives in Beaumont, Tex. Mr. LIEBELER. The question was: Did she tell you that she had been involved in getting Oswald out of jail? Mr. MURRET. I heard something to the effect that while he was in jail he phoned the home. It just so happened my sister was there at the time, because she very seldom comes in, and naturally you want to, you know, see if we could get him out, and she is saying how did he get in there in the first place, and she didn't want to get him out after she heard what he did. Mr. LIEBELER. She didn't want to get him out after she heard what he did? Mr. MURRET. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you know Oswald as a younger boy? Mr. MURRET. No; not closely. I can recollect, you know, when he was a small boy, but no particular dealings with him. He was too small to hold any conversation with him. Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any recollection of what kind of a fellow he was when he was a kid? Mr. MURRET. He was a nice kid. Just by his pictures and so forth, he was real nice. To me he was harmful [sic]. Mr. LIEBELER. What? Mr. MURRET. Harmful. Mr. LIEBELER. Harmful? Mr. MURRET. Harmless. Mr. LIEBELER. How old are you, Mr. Murret? Mr. MURRET. I am 29. Mr. LIEBELER. Twenty-nine? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. You are the youngest member of the Murret family? Is that right? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever know Lee Oswald's older brother, Robert? Mr. MURRET. Yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Were you closer to Robert than you were to Lee, would you say, or how much contact did you have with Robert? Mr. MURRET. Well, I would say about the same. Actually they weren't here in the city of New Orleans, you know, long enough to get close to them. Mr. LIEBELER. There was nothing that you knew about Lee Oswald's youth that was particularly noteworthy or outstanding or would draw your attention to him or would distinguish him from other boys of his age, that you can remember, was there? Mr. MURRET. No, sir; I couldn't say. I didn't have that much contact. Mr. LIEBELER. Now looking back over the summer of 1963, thinking about your contact with Lee Oswald, is there anything that you can think of that you did with him or any conversations that you had or anything of interest that occurred during that time that we haven't talked about? If you can think of anything else in that nature that we haven't mentioned, that you think would be helpful to the Commission, we would like to have you tell us.