I at the same time teach the staff. I give workshops in the psychiatric aspects of social work. I give seminars in which we discuss very interesting cases which have come up and to which the professional public of New York City is invited. So, for instance, we gave such a seminar on Oswald. That is the reason why I vaguely remember him. Mr. LIEBELER. You were also, as you have testified, the chief psychiatrist for the Youth House in 1953. Dr. HARTOGS. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. Were your duties in connection with that job pretty much the same in 1953 as they are now? Dr. HARTOGS. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. How large a staff did you have in 1953, approximately? Dr. HARTOGS. Approximately I would say 300. Mr. LIEBELER. A staff? Dr. HARTOGS. Yes, staff, because we have three shifts, you see. We have about two staff members for every child. Mr. LIEBELER. I see. I thought you testified previously that there were other psychiatrists. Dr. HARTOGS. Oh, my staff? Mr. LIEBELER. Yes, on your staff, not at the Youth House, but on your staff. Dr. HARTOGS. Oh, I thought--on my staff we have three psychiatrists now. Mr. LIEBELER. About how many did you have in 1953? Dr. HARTOGS. In 1953 we had two, two or three. It changed continuously. Sometimes we had even four. Mr. LIEBELER. Do you remember the names of the other psychiatrists who were on the staff at the time Oswald was in the Youth House? Dr. HARTOGS. No, no. They are continuously changing. Sometimes they were just for a few weeks there, but I have remained on the staff continuously. Mr. LIEBELER. The Youth House is an institution of the city of New York, is that correct, or is it supported by voluntary contributions? Is it a private institution or is it an adjunct of the city of New York? Dr. HARTOGS. Right now it is part of the probation department of the city of New York, under the jurisdiction of the probation department. Previously it was a private institution with a private board. Then later on the city of New York took over as far as the administration and the payment of the salaries is concerned, but the private board was maintained. So today the private board still exists, but the probation department of the city of New York has the jurisdiction over Youth House. Mr. LIEBELER. Does the city of New York support it financially? Dr. HARTOGS. Yes, the city of New York pays for it. Mr. LIEBELER. Was that true, do you know, offhand, in 1953, or was it still a private organization at that time? Dr. HARTOGS. At that time it was a private organization, yes. Mr. LIEBELER. You are a citizen of the United States, are you not? Dr. HARTOGS. Yes, since 1945. Mr. LIEBELER. Would you outline for us in general terms what the procedure is with respect to a boy who is remanded to the Youth House for psychiatric observation. He is ordered by the court to go to the Youth House; he goes to the Youth House. Dr. HARTOGS. He goes to the Youth House, that's right.