Mr. LIEBELER. What generally happens to him then? Dr. HARTOGS. When he is in Youth House he is given a preliminary screening as to what kind of a person he is, through human figure drawings. That is a special test that is given. Mr. LIEBELER. Who administers that, social workers on the staff? Dr. HARTOGS. Social workers, and the psychologists, they do that, a preliminary screening, because if we have very disturbed children right away from the beginning we--I see them right away on an emergency basis and send them out because we cannot keep too disturbed children in Youth House. We send them then to a mental hospital. So then this child goes into an intake dormitory where he is dressed, acquainted with the techniques of adjustment in Youth House, the Youth House philosophy. Then he is assigned to one of the dormitories, and then he is sent to school. We have our own school, P.S. 613. We have our own workshops for the children, recreation department. We have group service. We have our own hospital where the child is checked as to his physical health. So the child is slowly but surely introduced in all these various departments. Then the social worker has interviews with this child and with the parents of the child who are invited. Then the school authorities prepare a report for me so that when I see the child I have in front of me the probation officer's report, the social worker's report on his contact with the child and the parents, I have the report of group service or household, as it is called, I have the report of the medical department, and I have the report of the recreation department, and I have also the report of the psychologist. And then I see the child and examine the child, and then I incorporate in my report all these, my own findings with the findings of the Youth House staff. Mr. LIEBELER. Can you tell us approximately in 1953 how much of your time you devoted to the examination of children in Youth House? Dr. HARTOGS. 30 hours per week. Mr. LIEBELER. 30 hours a week. And about how many children would you see during the period of time in a week, average week? Dr. HARTOGS. During that, 10 or 12. Mr. LIEBELER. So that you would spend somewhere between 2 and 3 hours with each child, is that correct? Dr. HARTOGS. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. Is that still true? Dr. HARTOGS. No, I mean not with the child itself. The child is seen for about half an hour to an hour. Mr. LIEBELER. By you? Dr. HARTOGS. By me, but then I have also to study the record which takes half an hour, and then it takes about an hour to dictate, so that counts about 2 hours. Mr. LIEBELER. In your capacity as chief psychiatrist for the Youth House did you have occasion at any time to interview Lee Harvey Oswald? Dr. HARTOGS. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. Would you tell us when that was and all that you can remember about that interview in your own words.