Mr. VOEBEL. Protracted? Mr. JENNER. Yes; did it keep going on? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes, it kept going on, across lawns and sidewalks, and people would run them off, and they would only run to the next place, and it continued that way from block to block, and as people would run them off of one block, they would go on to the next. Mr. JENNER. That was fisticuffs; is that right? Mr. VOEBEL. Right. Mr. JENNER. Were they about the same age? Mr. VOEBEL. Oswald and John? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. VOEBEL. I don't know; I guess so. Mr. JENNER. How about size? Mr. VOEBEL. I think John was a little smaller, a little shorter than Lee. Mr. JENNER. Do you know what caused the fight? Mr. VOEBEL. No; I don't. I don't remember that. Mr. JENNER. But you followed this fight from place to place, did you not? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Why, were you curious? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; and well, it was also on my way home, going that way. The fight traveled my route home. Mr. JENNER. All right, what happened as this fight progressed down the street? Mr. VOEBEL. Well, I think Oswald was getting the best of John, and the little brother sticking by his brother, stepped in too, and then it was two against one, so with that Oswald just seemed to give one good punch to the little brother's jaw, and his mouth started bleeding. Mr. JENNER. Whose mouth? Mr. VOEBEL. Mike Neumeyer. Mr. JENNER. The little boy? Mr. VOEBEL. Yes, sir. Mike's mouth started bleeding, and when that happened, the whole sympathy of the crowd turned against Oswald for some reason, which I didn't understand, because it was two against one, and Oswald had a right to defend himself. In a way, I felt that this boy got what he deserved, and in fact, later on I found out that this boy that got his mouth cut had been in the habit of biting his lip. Oswald might have hit him on the shoulder or something, and the boy might have bit his lip, and it might have looked like Oswald hit him in the mouth, but anyway, somebody else came out and ran everybody off then, and the whole sympathy of the crowd was against Lee at that time because he had punched little Mike in the mouth and made his mouth bleed. I don't remember anything that happened after that, but I think I just went on home and everybody went their way, and then the next day or a couple of days later we were coming out of school in the evening, and Oswald, I think, was a little in front of me and I was a couple of paces behind him, and I was talking with some other people, and I didn't actually see what happened because it all happened so quick. Some big guy, probably from a high school--he looked like a tremendous football player--punched Lee right square in the mouth, and without him really knowing or seeing really who did it. I don't know who he was, and he ran off. That's when we ran after Lee to see if we could help him. Mr. JENNER. He just swung one lick and ran?