Mr. TAYLOR. No. To my knowledge, he did not own any clothing that would be acceptable in what we would call business circles, say. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever see him with a tie on? Mr. TAYLOR. No. Mr. JENNER. Give me your judgment as to the relationship between Lee Oswald and George De Mohrenschildt. Mr. TAYLOR. Uh--it's difficult to assess their relationship because there probably was more to it than I ever saw. But what little of it I saw, they were quite in opposition to each other--such as the lessons in English for Marina. But I certainly think that they must have been closer than they appeared or the De Mohrenschildts wouldn't have been so active in seeing that they got along well. Mr. JENNER. Do you have any opinion as to whether George De Mohrenschildt exercised any influence over Oswald? Mr. TAYLOR. Yes; there seemed to be a great deal of influence there. It would be my guess that De Mohrenschildt encouraged him to move to Dallas, and he suggested a number of things to Lee--such as where to look for jobs. And it seems like whatever his suggestions were, Lee grabbed them and took them--whether it was what time to go to bed or where to stay or to let Marina stay with us while he stayed at the YMCA. Mr. JENNER. And he tended to follow De Mohrenschildt's suggestions? Mr. TAYLOR. Yes. Mr. JENNER. I want to finish with the Oswalds before I get to the De Mohrenschildts. (Looking through papers.) Tell me, chronologically, about the De Mohrenschildts and your relationships with them and who these various De Mohrenschildts are? Mr. TAYLOR. In other words, I will go back time-wise and bring you up. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. TAYLOR. He was born in Russia, I believe in Georgia. This is, of course, all what I had been told for a while here. He was born in Russia and I believe he went to the---- Mr. JENNER. Now, this is what you were told and heard while you were---- Mr. TAYLOR. Married to his daughter. Mr. JENNER. His daughter. And this comes by way of conversations over a long period of time? Mr. TAYLOR. That's right. Mr. JENNER. All right. Mr. TAYLOR. He was born in Russia and, I believe, to a titled family. He claimed for himself the title of Baron. Original name was von Mohrenschildt. Mr. JENNER. [Spelling] v-o-n? Mr. TAYLOR. That's right. And that he came to this country--when, I'm not sure, but certainly prior to 1939 when he was associated with the University of Texas in the capacity of instructor or professor in their Geology Department. And he married my former wife's mother in New York City. Mr. JENNER. Repeat the names, please. Mr. TAYLOR. He married my former wife, Alex's, mother--the present Mrs. Brandel--in New York City. Mr. JENNER. And was it your information that that was his first wife? Mr. TAYLOR. To my knowledge, that was his first wife. Mr. JENNER. All right. Mr. TAYLOR. They married approximately 3 months before she was born. Mr. JENNER. Before your wife was born?