Warren Commission (09 of 26): Hearings Vol. IX (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (09 of 26): Hearings Vol. IX (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. JENNER. It was the taking of the statement, the transcribing of the
statement, the reading of the statement to Marina and Mrs. Paine, and
then have the witnesses read the statements or listen to them and then
sign them.
Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct.
Mr. JENNER. All of this took about 3 hours?
Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct.
Mr. JENNER. Did Mrs. Paine speak to Marina in Russian while you were
present?
Mr. MAMANTOV. Right, yes, she did. Mrs. Paine spoke in Russian to
Marina--yes, she did.
Mr. JENNER. Any statements made by Mrs. Paine in Russian to Marina,
were they pertinent to the subject matters about which you have
testified?
Mr. MAMANTOV. No; I don't think so. I don't remember--personal
conversation more or less about the child who was present.
Mr. JENNER. The conversations between Mrs. Paine and Marina in Russian,
were they conversations related to personal matters--the children?
Mr. MAMANTOV. The children; and only on one occasion I remember was to
her protection--Marina's protection.
Mr. JENNER. And what was that?
Mr. MAMANTOV. "What are they going to do with me now?"
Mr. JENNER. Who made that statement?
Mr. MAMANTOV. Marina asked of Mrs. Paine.
Mr. JENNER. "What are they going to do with me now?"
Mr. MAMANTOV. What are they going to do with me now?"
Mr. JENNER. And what did Mrs. Paine say?
Mr. MAMANTOV. Well, then, she asked--are they going to send her back
to the Soviet Union, and Mrs. Paine said, "I don't know," and then she
looked at me and I said, "I don't know either. If you are innocent,
then you will be innocent." I couldn't say one way or the other, and I
didn't want to go into conversation.
Mr. JENNER. Did you say to Marina that, "If you are innocent--then you
are innocent"--did you mean to imply by that that she would not be
deported in that event?
Mr. MAMANTOV. Right; and then I expressed hope that nothing would
happen to her.
Mr. JENNER. Now, have you now told us everything you can recall to the
best of your recollection that was said?
Mr. MAMANTOV. In relation to Marina or to both of them?
Mr. JENNER. First, in relation to Marina--during the course of that
3-hour meeting or session at the Dallas City Police Station.
Mr. MAMANTOV. I think I have told you everything I remember.
Mr. JENNER. In an effort to perhaps refresh your recollection, but
without suggestion that these things actually occurred, was anything
asked her about her relations with her husband, Lee Oswald, whether
they got along well, didn't get along well, whether they had any
problems in that connection?
Mr. MAMANTOV. I don't think it was brought up at that particular time.
Mr. JENNER. You have an especial command of the Russian language, you
teach Russian?
Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct.
Mr. JENNER. And have taught Russian?
Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct.
Mr. JENNER. You have heard Mrs. Paine speak Russian?
Mr. MAMANTOV. Yes.
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