Mr. JENNER. Would you please state for the record the extent of Mrs. Paine's command of the Russian language? Mr. MAMANTOV. Say for--I can give only comparison for American person and for Russian person. I say for an American person--fair to good for knowledge of the language, for command of language--very poor. Mr. JENNER. Is that the only occasion when you interpreted or translated for Marina? Mr. MAMANTOV. In person? In her presence? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. MAMANTOV. That's the only occasion. Mr. JENNER. Did you see Marina at any time after this incident, this questioning? Mr. MAMANTOV. Intentionally or unintentionally? Mr. JENNER. Well, I think, either way. Mr. MAMANTOV. Either way--yes, sir--I once on one Saturday, my mother-in-law and I went to Sears to Ross Avenue store. Mr. JENNER. Was this some time afterward? Mr. MAMANTOV. Shortly afterward. Mr. JENNER. How shortly--the next day? Mr. MAMANTOV. Oh, no--the next day after Martin, I guess, came into the picture. Mr. JENNER. Did you have occasion to speak with her then? Mr. MAMANTOV. My mother-in-law went into the main entrance and I opened the door, and if I remember right, I was holding the door for somebody else to pass by and mother-in-law got ahead. I closed the door and started to walk off and catch up and I heard somebody calling, like in my conscious, calling, "Mr. Mamantov," in Russian and in a very little whisper, and I was walking a couple of steps further and I heard it again, "Mr. Mamantov," again in Russian and I turned around and here was a young lady, two children, and about three or four young men around, so in my mind it occurred--this is Marina, but I was so surprised and she didn't look like she looked at the police station. Her hair became dark and I called out "Netasha," and she called me in Russian and said, "No, this is Marina." So, I introduced myself immediately to the gentlemen with her, saying I was translating for her at the police station and my name is so and so. In the meantime mother-in-law turned around and started to look for me and I told her to pass by, don't look, and try to get away, and, I said, "How are you doing?" She said, "Now is becoming quieter. I am very tired." That is the extent of our conversation, so we went into basement of Sears store and when we finished our business, we were going up again--excuse me--by myself. Mother-in-law was waiting for me somewhere--I had to go and check on my credit, so after going into the Sears' office, coming back on the escalator, here was the group again, and I tried to be polite and let her and her escort get on the escalator, and I stepped on and I told to one, who later I found out was Martin, and I didn't know at that time who was Martin, and I told him, I said, "If she needs help in translating the language, please call on me." And so and so, and that's the time I saw her. Mr. JENNER. Is that the last time you have seen her? Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct.