Mr. MAMANTOV. No, no; but in case she needs help, but just in the way of help, and this way the whole conversation came up. Now, my mother-in-law--I asked Mr. Peterson who called me on Friday if my mother-in-law would be called or is called, I will come with her because she needs a translator. Mr. JENNER. You may bring her. Mr. MAMANTOV. If I may bring her with me because everything she knows we know in the family, and she needs a translator, and I translated for her when she was questioned by FBI. She doesn't speak enough English to answer your questions. Mr. JENNER. Oh, is that so? Mr. MAMANTOV. She will understand what you are talking about but--as far as that--she is 75, and an elderly lady and she can be quite nervous by being by herself and so on. Mr. JENNER. All right, I will attempt my best to put her at ease, which I have tried to do with you. Mr. MAMANTOV. Oh, I am at ease as much as I can be. I'm trying to be, because the reasons I hesitate to say--"Yes, I remember." I don't remember in some cases, or maybe I remember, like when I translated with Mr. Martin over here, because in my mind it is very hard to separate right now without going back and reading the report. Mr. JENNER. Are you acquainted with a couple, Igor and Natalie Voshinin? Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct. Mr. JENNER. They are friends of yours? Mr. MAMANTOV. That's correct; they are also friends of the De Mohrenschildts. Mr. JENNER. And have you had conversations with the Voshinins with respect to Mr. De Mohrenschildt? Mr. MAMANTOV. Yes; and on quite a few occasions. Mr. JENNER. During any of those conversations was any reference made to a trip that De Mohrenschildt made or might have made to Mexico City, Mexico? Mr. MAMANTOV. That's right. Mr. JENNER. When was that trip supposed to have taken place? Mr. MAMANTOV. I don't remember if it was in 1958 or 1959. I don't know. Mrs. Voshinin can tell you exactly the time. Mr. JENNER. All right, we intend to interrogate them as well. We will leave it to them. Mr. MAMANTOV. Right, but I heard from her, I mean, her statement to us was that De Mohrenschildt went to Mexico and met with the Soviet representatives and Mikoyan---- Mr. JENNER. That's spelled M-i-k-o-y-a-n [spelling]? Mr. MAMANTOV. Yes--who was visiting at that time in Mexico. This, actually, if you will let me elaborate a little bit more on this--this mainly was my opinion of his politics, I mean, I had suspicioned, but this was actually what led me to believe or doubt his loyalty. Mr. JENNER. Now, you are speaking of De Mohrenschildt? Mr. MAMANTOV. Yes, sir; De Mohrenschildt. Mr. JENNER. Tell us your contacts with De Mohrenschildt; do they extend beyond what you have stated that he participated in the effort to organize the Eastern Orthodox Church? Mr. MAMANTOV. No, no; he did not participate. Mr. JENNER. He did not?