Mr. MAMANTOV. I have grave doubts of Marina's exit of the Soviet Union so easily. Of course, I don't have any proof one way or the other--but knowing her life from what I translated, I have more doubt of her arrangement--how the woman could come out so easy from the Soviet Union, because if I liked to get--if I would have liked to take some of my family out it would take for me years and thousands of dollars to get my closest relative out of the Soviet Union. Besides, she should be old, practically as a laborer help not useful to the Soviet Union, and here, a young lady--20 or 21, just married an American citizen came out and--but I don't want to accuse her--maybe she's completely innocent. I know other cases where people would use all possible means to get out of the Soviet Union. Maybe this is the case, but there is still in my mind quite a doubt of her coming out so easy. Mr. JENNER. Is there anything else you want to add? Mr. MAMANTOV. No, not on this particular case, I think that's everything. Mr. JENNER. Now, we have had some off the record discussions and I had a short talk with you before we began this deposition. Mr. MAMANTOV. Right. Mr. JENNER. Is there anything that occurred during the course of our off the record discussions or preliminary talks before the deposition, that you think is pertinent here that I have failed to bring out? Mr. MAMANTOV. No, I think you brought out everything that I think of. Mr. JENNER. Was there anything you said to me in the off-the-record discussions or the preliminary discussions which, in your opinion, is inconsistent with any testimony that you have given on the record? Mr. MAMANTOV. No, I don't think it is. Mr. JENNER. And, as you sit there, do you have any feeling that at any time, on or off the record, that I directly or indirectly sought to influence you in any statements you might have made? Mr. MAMANTOV. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. Well, we very much appreciate your cooperation and help and in sticking with us now and going into all of this with us, and at the moment, I don't have in mind anything further, but it is possible that while I am still here in Dallas this week or next week, or afterwards, I might wish to get in touch with you and have you further extend your deposition. Mr. MAMANTOV. All right, sir. Mr. JENNER. We will close the taking of the deposition of Mr. Mamantov at this point. TESTIMONY OF MRS. DOROTHY GRAVITIS The testimony of Mrs. Dorothy Gravitis was taken at 1 p.m., on April 6, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Ilya A. Mamantov, interpreter.