Mr. JENNER. And he then, let's see, that was the second wife; is that correct? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And he married a third time? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. A third time. Mr. JENNER. And is that his present wife? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And who is she? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. That's a question---- Mr. JENNER. Does the name J-h-a-n-a [spelling] or Jeanne serve your recollection? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Jean--Jean. Mr. JENNER. His present wife is named Jeanne? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes--Jeanne. Mr. JENNER. What do you know about her? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Well, I don't know anything about her except that she was a successful dress designer, I believe, in California, and that she had, and I may say it frankly, that she had a low opinion of our form of government. I don't know whether she is a Communist, Socialist, Anarchist or what. Mr. JENNER. What are her views with respect to---- Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Didi De Mohrenschildt. Mr. JENNER. That's the second wife? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. It's Didi De Mohrenschildt. Mr. JENNER. She is the Sharples girl? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. The Sharples girl. Mr. JENNER. And did it come to your attention that his present wife was either born in China or went at a very early age, an infant age--came to China? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. I don't know anything about her except I know that she is part Russian, French--something else, but you see, she never expounded her views to me about her beliefs, but she did to lots of Americans, you see, and they would ask me why? What does it mean? You know, for some reason or other--and I would like this off the record. Mr. JENNER. All right. (At this point statement by the witness, Mr. Raigorodsky, to Counsel Jenner off the record.) Mr. JENNER. What is the reaction of the Russian community in Dallas to the De Mohrenschildts, with particular reference to their political views? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Well, the Russian community here, it was, you say--"And political views?" Mr. JENNER. The views separately of George De Mohrenschildt, and then his wife, Jean. Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Well, would you believe me if I tell you that after all this time, I do not know the political views of George De Mohrenschildt? Mr. JENNER. Tell us about him, what kind of a person is he? He seems from some of our information to be reckless, to make nonsense at times, he appears to have traveled extensively in Europe, Mexico, Haiti, the Dominican Republic; he is a man who has provoked or seems to seek to provoke others into argument by making outlandish statements. We would like to know something from you as a--if I may use the expression but in a sense of compliment--a member of the "Old Guard," and you have had some contact with this man for 17 years now--what is he or what makes him tick?