Mr. RAIGORODSKY. I don't think he has any reputation of that type. Now, remember there are two--he is in a different social circle now, you see, than he was before with his second wife. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. RAIGORODSKY. In fact, if I'm not mistaken how he got to the Oswalds was through the Clarks. You see, the Clarks of Fort Worth were his friends. Mr. JENNER. From a prior social circle? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No; he met them--I don't know where he met them, but they were not in the so-called Dallas social circle that he was originally in with his wife because of her being a Sharples. Mr. JENNER. Do you know of any business interests of De Mohrenschildt in Houston? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. In Houston? Mr. JENNER. Yes; in the last 5 years, let's say? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes; he told me that he was going to see Herman and George Brown--they are brothers. Mr. JENNER. What business are they in? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Well, again, don't put this down. Mr. JENNER. Off the record. (Discussion between Messrs. Jenner and Davis and the witness, Mr. Raigorodsky, off the record.) Mr. JENNER. Now; I want this on the record. Mr. RAIGORODSKY. George has been friends with many, many influential people in many cities. Mr. DAVIS. In all of them, I imagine. Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Is he a namedropper--is he a man who seeks to be friends of important people? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No--he was my friend, I was his friend--he was Jake Hamon's friend and Jake Hamon was his friend. Mr. DAVIS. How often did De Mohrenschildt see him? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Jake? Mr. DAVIS. No; how often did George De Mohrenschildt see Herman and George Brown? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. I don't know, but he has been going to Houston quite often. In fact, he told me that everything is settled--he is going to deal with them in that Haiti situation, and then Herman died. Mr. JENNER. Do you know of any particular business that he had in Houston? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No. Mr. JENNER. What information do you have regarding his interests or business in Houston--I take it that it came from his making statements to you? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. That's right, except in his dealing with John De Menil, in which John De Menil sent me the copies of the letters--you see, there is a copy from John De Menil. Mr. JENNER. Where do you have information as to whether he was required to or did make regular trips, a trip every 4 or 5 weeks, to Houston? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. He--I can't answer that. Mr. JENNER. He appears to have become acquainted with a gentleman in Houston by the name of Andre Jitkoff? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes; sure. Mr. JENNER. He is a professor at Rice Institute? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. That's right--he's head of the Russian church in Houston. Mr. JENNER. He is the head of the Russian church in Houston? Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Yes; that's right--also his daughter is my--I'm a godfather to Mr. Jitkoff's daughter. Mr. JENNER. Well, give me in a thumbnail sketch, something about Mr. Jitkoff's background.