Mr. JENNER. Or have any leanings toward communism? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; no leanings even. I am probably the most leftest of them all. Mr. JENNER. And you do not---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. And as you know, I am not a member of any party. Mr. JENNER. And you do not regard yourself as a Communist? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No. Not only do I not regard--I just am not. But I am probably the only one who has been in the Communist country, because of my job with ICA, and also, I forgot to tell you that I had visited Poland in 1958, after my job with ICA. I went to visit Poland, as a tourist, to see what happened to my ex-country. I just went there for a period of 10 days, to Warsaw, and then went to Sweden from there, and then returned back to the States. Mr. JENNER. This was after---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. After I finish my job in Yugoslavia. Mr. JENNER. Give me--I am going to pose a hypothetical to you. Let us assume that a Russian couple would come to Dallas, let us say right now--no friends, not know anybody in Dallas. What would normally happen? As soon as you became acquainted with the fact, or the community--the Russian group became acquainted with the fact that there was a Russian couple? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They would be exceedingly interested, naturally. Mr. JENNER. Curious? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Exceedingly curious. Mr. JENNER. Now, if you were there, would that include you? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And your wife? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Well, aside from us--the most curious would be George Bouhe, because he actually met us first--the first in Dallas--he told us about Oswald, as far as I remember. Because he is curious by nature. He wants to know what is going on. He wants to convert them to the Greek Orthodox Church, and so on. Mr. JENNER. Would there be any effort to help these people become acquainted throughout the community? Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. If they--if that couple came from Soviet Russia, from the Soviet Union, you mean? Mr. JENNER. Well, let's assume that. Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, the old guard would not do anything. They would be curious, but--they might meet them and very soon afterwards they would get disgusted with them, because what they would say to them would not fit with their beliefs. And we know that Soviet Russia is a going concern. To them it is not, it does not exist. It just isn't there. Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, when did you first meet either Marina--I will put it this way: When did you first hear---- Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The first time---- Mr. JENNER. Of either of these people--Marina Oswald or Lee Harvey Oswald?