Mr. RAY. Well, I was stationed in Wiesbaden and as you probably already know there were a lot of displaced persons over there, and the army used these displaced persons for various duties, you know, kitchen work and things like that and I met her there during the time that she and some other girls came to work for our outfit. All we had to do was go get them, you know, feed them and transport them back and forth and feed them and that's where I met her, in Wiesbaden. Mr. LIEBELER. Then you were subsequently married and you brought her back to the United States; is that correct? Mr. RAY. Yes, sir; after a length of time during which I was later discharged there and worked for the U.S. Force headquarters in Frankfurt. (At this point in the hearing, Mr. Robert T. Davis, assistant attorney general of Texas leaves the room.) Mr. RAY. [continuing]. I was employed there about, well, I think actually I was on the payroll until they sent me back to New York which would have been 16, 17 months, I think. Mr. LIEBELER. You were employed as a civilian is that correct? Mr. RAY. Civilian employee of the Government. Mr. LIEBELER. Were you an officer or enlisted man; what was your rank when you met your wife? Mr. RAY. Buck sergeant. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you incur any difficulty when you tried to marry your wife when you were in Germany? Mr. RAY. At various times it looked like we were running into stumps but we got over them. At times it looked like they were going to send all the Russian nationals back to Russia and I even made a trip to Paris, France, once to try to talk to the Russian Embassy there and never got to see him. I think along about that time the Government stepped in and kind of protected these people that did not want to go back, you know, and things kind of let up then and we were left about our business for awhile; there after the war, they were trying to get all the Russian nationals back. Mr. LIEBELER. Did your wife have to obtain the permission of Russian authorities before she could marry you? Mr. RAY. I don't think so. Now I'm not sure on that point. I wouldn't say for sure one way or the other; it has been so long ago. Mr. LIEBELER. What was your purpose in going to Paris to try and see the Russian Embassy, to get permission to keep her here? Mr. RAY. To keep her from being sent back to Russia. You know it was during that time that they were trying to send them all back. Mr. LIEBELER. Did there come a time when you met Lee Harvey Oswald and his wife, Marina? Mr. RAY. I met them. Mr. LIEBELER. Will you tell us the circumstances surrounding your meeting them, where was it, what happened? Mr. RAY. Well, do you want to start from the beginning? Mr. LIEBELER. Yes; just tell us the story in your own words as to how you came to meet the Oswalds and what happened, what the extent of your contact was.