Mrs. DYMITRUK. Uh--I think she was all right. And house was clean. And it was, I mean, it was nice apartment. I lived in much worse apartment when I came to United States--so---- Mr. JENNER. So, she was neat, the apartment was neat and clean---- Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And she was neat and clean? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And, I take it, you had, at that moment, a good impression of her? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And what sex was this baby--girl or boy? Mrs. DYMITRUK. It was a girl. Mr. JENNER. A little girl. About how old? Mrs. DYMITRUK. (Gesturing with hands.) Baby couldn't walk. I don't know. Mr. JENNER. Could not walk? All right. That's really what I was getting at. She was carrying the baby in her arms? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Could you recall a little more clearly what she said about her husband? That is, was she having difficulty with him or were they getting along well--or what was your impression in that respect? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Well, I haven't seen him at all--so, I couldn't say anything---- Mr. JENNER. I know, but from what she said, Mrs. Dymitruk? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Oh, that's what she said about her husband--that he's against the hospital and against the doctors because he can't afford to pay the bills. Mr. JENNER. I see. Mrs. DYMITRUK. So, I said to her at the Parkland Hospital you don't have to pay anything or maybe something--I don't know. So, I took her to the hospital with her baby. Mr. JENNER. You went to the Parkland Hospital here in Dallas? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. And you drove Marina and her child? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Okay. Mrs. DYMITRUK. So, we come to the hospital emergency room, they checked the baby, fever 103, they give some little medicine for the temperature to go down, and they said, "I'm sorry, we can't help you; we don't have a children's doctor here." Mr. JENNER. Do not have a children's doctor? Mrs. DYMITRUK. No; I was little bit surprised because they deliver babies over there every day so many and they don't have a children's doctor. Mr. JENNER. Yeah. Mrs. DYMITRUK. And I said, "Well, what we can do right now? I don't know what to do with the baby now." "Well, if you can come in the evening." Mr. JENNER. The doctor or the attendant said---- Mrs. DYMITRUK. That was the nurse. And she said, "Well, in the evening, it will be a doctor for the children." I said, "Is it possible to find somebody else right now?" Because the baby couldn't breathe and I don't know--I don't have my own children but really I was scared to see baby. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. DYMITRUK. And they said, "Well, we give the address to go to another children's hospital in Dallas." And that's what I did. Mr. JENNER. You and Marina and the baby then drove to---- Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember where that was?