Mrs. DYMITRUK. Sir, I don't remember. It was a little hospital--children's hospital. I think it was free. You don't have to pay anything. Mr. JENNER. Oh, yes; it was a clinic-type of hospital? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Just for children. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mrs. DYMITRUK. So, when I come there there were at least 40 children there waiting. Mr. JENNER. 40? Mrs. DYMITRUK. I think so. There were so many children. And at first I asked the nurse to take care of the baby if it is possible right away. Mr. JENNER. Because the baby has a fever? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes; and she said, "Well, I'm sorry. I can't help it." Mr. JENNER. Cannot? Mrs. DYMITRUK. "I cannot--because they have so many children here and you have to wait your turn." I said, "Maybe those children----"--I see around there--playing around--so, I say, "Maybe they don't have a fever high like this. Can't you take baby right away?" "Oh, no; you have to wait 3 or 4 hours"--or something like that. I said, "Well, I'm sorry. We have to go home." So, I brought her home. It was about 2 o'clock. And I said to her, "Well, if your husband comes home, you have to decide what to do. If you want it, I can take you to hospital this evening." She said, "Yes." So I came to see her around, maybe 6 o'clock--maybe 5 o'clock or something--I don't remember. But when I came home to see her her husband wasn't home. Mr. JENNER. Was not? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Was not. I said, "Now, Marina, I would like to take you to the hospital. Do you want to go?" She said, "Yes; but wait just a minute when my husband will be back." I said, "Okay." So he came home and first he was eating---- Mr. JENNER. Were you introduced to him? Mr. DYMITRUK. Yes. She said, "That's my husband." And he spoke Russian to me. Mr. JENNER. He did speak Russian? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes; and I was really surprised--in short time, he spoke nicely. Mr. JENNER. He spoke pretty good Russian? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Yes. So--and I asked him if he wanted to go to the hospital with the baby. And he said, "I don't know. I can't afford it. I can't pay." So they went to the living room and I was sitting in the kitchen, and they were fighting in the living room--what to do--to go or not to go. Mr. JENNER. Was it a real argument? Mrs. DYMITRUK. It was. Yes. I could hear from the kitchen that they argued. Mr. JENNER. It was a heated argument? Mrs. DYMITRUK. Well, they were just--uh--I don't know what it was all about, but when they came out they told me that they wanted to go to the hospital. Mr. JENNER. Yes. And from what you heard of this argument, he didn't want to go, she did? Mrs. DYMITRUK. She want to go but he---- Mr. JENNER. He did not want to go? Mrs. DYMITRUK. No; no. So then he decide that he want to go to the hospital and take his baby. I said, "All right."