Mr. JENNER. Will you tell me, please, and I want you to tell me in your own words. I will try not to interrupt you, or at least I will keep it to a minimum, what you learned about George De Mohrenschildt first? Mr. GLOVER. You mean what I learned about him from my complete acquaintance with him? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. GLOVER. What he was like and so forth? Mr. JENNER. What he was like, what you learned from him, if you can indicate information you received directly from him as to his travels, if any, as to his work, as to any associations he had. Mr. GLOVER. Well, it is pretty hard to produce some order out of it, because I never got a complete picture. But he had apparently, and I believe this to be true, had come back from a trip to South America. I mean to Mexico where he had walked from the north edge of Mexico down to Central America, to Panama. Mr. JENNER. Your information in this respect was obtained directly from him? Mr. GLOVER. Directly from him and also by films which he had showing his trip, and also the fact that he apparently corresponded with Sam Ballen during the time that he had been down there, and that was mentioned, the fact that he had corresponded. Mr. JENNER. Who mentioned it, Ballen or De Mohrenschildt? Mr. GLOVER. I couldn't be sure about that, sir, but from one or the other people, I am sure I got the distinct impression that they corresponded. He sent letters to Sam Ballen during the time he was there, so I do believe, and I have no reason not to believe, that he made such a trip, seeing the film. Mr. JENNER. You saw the film? Mr. GLOVER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You also talked to Mr. De Mohrenschildt, or he with you? Mr. GLOVER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. You had conversations with him about his trip to Mexico, and he told you about it? Mr. GLOVER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Did he exhibit the film? Mr. GLOVER. He exhibited the film. Mr. JENNER. Was Mrs. De Mohrenschildt the lady called Jeanne and who preferred to be called "Jon" (Jeanne)? Mr. GLOVER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Was she present when the film was shown? Mr. GLOVER. She was present. Mr. JENNER. And you also had conversation with her? Mr. GLOVER. Yes, sir; I did. Mr. JENNER. Did she confirm, as well as Mr. De Mohrenschildt, their trip, walking trip into Mexico? Mr. GLOVER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Was anything said about the De Mohrenschildts, either of them having any--having met any officials with the Soviet Union? Mr. GLOVER. During that trip? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. GLOVER. No, sir; not that I remember. Mr. JENNER. Not at all? Mr. GLOVER. Nothing was said. Mr. JENNER. You have no impression on that score, then? Mr. GLOVER. I cannot remember any such thing was said. Mr. JENNER. I take it then, it is your impression that this was a walking pleasure trip, a vacation, that sort of thing in which he and Mrs. De Mohrenschildt traveled from the border--that would be the north border of Mexico down as far as Panama?