Mr. GLOVER. That is the impression I got. Mr. JENNER. And that her marriage to George De Mohrenschildt was her second marriage? Mr. GLOVER. That is the impression I got. Mr. JENNER. Did you learn whether Mrs. De Mohrenschildt had any business or occupation herself? Mr. GLOVER. Yes, I did. She had worked some time during--at the time that I first met her, she worked as a designer of clothes. Mr. JENNER. For what company? Mr. GLOVER. I don't know what company, but she worked here in Dallas at the time. I believe at the time she joined the Figure Skating Club, someone learned that. I don't think she told me particularly, but someone, that she did this. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever have a conversation on the subject with her which served to confirm the report that you had obtained from someone else? That is, that she worked as a designer here in Dallas. Mr. GLOVER. I cannot recall at the time of the first meeting with her, but at a later time, from things that were said, I am quite sure that she referred to that time when she worked, yes, here in Dallas. Mr. JENNER. Give me your general impression of her. What kind of person was and is she? Mr. GLOVER. Well, the most obvious thing about her that I can recall was her very, very great desire to help and dominate people, to help solve their problems, is the thing that always impressed me about her. She had one daughter, which I haven't mentioned, apparently by this previous marriage, who grew up and who I met one time when she was passing through. Mr. JENNER. That is, passing through Dallas? Mr. GLOVER. With her husband. That was during the later period. Mr. JENNER. She was married and lived somewhere else in this country? Mr. GLOVER. All I know is that daughter and husband came from a Mexican trip and were going to Alaska. And she had this one daughter who she talked very much about, how she had brought her up and so forth, and she seemed to have a desire to sort of help people out and sort of arrange their affairs. She tried one time to give me advice on my family situation, at which time, as one would say, I told her off, told her that I had my own ideas about what I wanted to do about the situation and was not interested in hers at all. But that is the most outstanding impression I have of her, always trying to do something for someone, arrange things in some way, sort of an overdeveloped mother tendency, to me. Mr. JENNER. Describe the physical characteristics of her, please. Mr. GLOVER. Physically, I am depending somewhat on some pictures she showed. According to her, when she showed pictures in the album. Mr. JENNER. I don't mean--are you relating to the pictures to describe Mrs. De Mohrenschildt? Mr. GLOVER. No; well, I will just leave that out, if you prefer. Mr. JENNER. Describe the physical characteristics of Mrs. De Mohrenschildt as you knew her, saw her. Mr. GLOVER. Well, she was a person who looked in fairly good physical shape. Mr. JENNER. About how old?