Mr. BARGAS. Well, I have three basic rules that I go by--one, is that I expect a man to be there on time and I expect him, when he punches in in the morning to be prepared to work, and if he is going to be absent for any reason at all, I expect him to call in in the morning before 10 o'clock which is one of our company rules, and then I went along stating what he would be doing, where he would be working---- Mr. JENNER. All right, tell us what you said to him, in substance. Mr. BARGAS. What I said to him in substance probably was--I usually tell them, "You will be working in this department," and---- Mr. JENNER. Which department? Mr. BARGAS. The turbine department. Mr. JENNER. The turbine department? Mr. BARGAS. The turbine department, and that's another ventilator which we make, and this ventilator requires a little cutting to do with the shears, and he told me that he had had sheet metal experience while he was in the service. Mr. JENNER. All right, go ahead. Mr. BARGAS. And so---- Mr. JENNER. What kind of cutting--you say with the shears--is it a power-operated shears? Mr. BARGAS. A power-operated shears. Mr. JENNER. Go ahead. Mr. BARGAS. And then after that, I put him to work. Mr. JENNER. Now, I would like to stick to that beginning a little bit--do you recall what inquiries you made of him as to his immediate history, that is, did you inquire of him as to past positions, if any, he had held? Mr. BARGAS. No. Mr. JENNER. When you talked with him, I take it from your answer that you did inquire of him as to what sheet metal work experience he had had, if any? Mr. BARGAS. If any. Mr. JENNER. And his response was--what did he say? Mr. BARGAS. Well, he said he had had some when he was in the service and that's all, and he didn't give no full detail as to what he was doing or how he was doing it. Mr. JENNER. And you didn't inquire? Mr. BARGAS. No; I didn't. Mr. JENNER. I take it, then, at that stage of the game it was your impression or your thought, since this was to be a low hourly rated employee, that you would soon find out if he had any experience? Mr. BARGAS. Right, sir. Mr. JENNER. And you intended to train him in any event? Mr. BARGAS. Right. Mr. JENNER. Now, do you have any recollection of his appearance on that occasion, how he was attired with respect to cleanliness, did he have a suit coat on, a jacket, or a T-shirt, or if you have no recollection, then just say you don't? Mr. BARGAS. No. Mr. JENNER. This was just an employment in the ordinary course of business that you do frequently? Mr. BARGAS. Yes. Mr. JENNER. And nothing with respect to this man impressed you or now stands out? Mr. BARGAS. No. Mr. JENNER. At this initial interview? Mr. BARGAS. No. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall inquiring of him as to where he lived? Mr. BARGAS. No. Mr. JENNER. As to whether he had a telephone or not? Mr. BARGAS. No. Mr. JENNER. Was he married--did he have a family?