Mr. GLOVER. It is related particularly to the exploration for oil. That is the study of the mechanical constituents of rocks in which the oil is found. I would say involving research work in order to find some more easily recognized signs of oil. That is the long term objective. Mr. JENNER. I would say this to you, sir. It is common that witnesses can, especially in this type of examination where the witness sits across the desk from a questioner, to drop his voice. So to the extent that you can recall it, you won't do it all the time, keep your voice up. Mr. GLOVER. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Are you acquainted with a Mr. George De Mohrenschildt? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; I am. Mr. JENNER. When and under what circumstances did you first become acquainted with Mr. George De Mohrenschildt? Mr. GLOVER. Again this is connected with my ice skating activities which I didn't mention. I mentioned my son's. One of my avocations is ice skating. I do not know the exact time, but sometime in the period, I would say 1956 to 1959, when I have been ice skating, I met Mrs. De Mohrenschildt on the ice rink skating by herself. She skated a considerable time, maybe, probably, part of a year, and then later she brought Mr. De Mohrenschildt there, and that is the first acquaintance I had with them. This was a casual acquaintance. Mr. JENNER. Is this the present Mrs. De Mohrenschildt? Mr. GLOVER. This is the present Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Mr. JENNER. Was she then married to Mr. De Mohrenschildt? Mr. GLOVER. I have no way of knowing. I wouldn't have thought of this particularly except in conversation with the FBI. By their reaction, what he said, apparently there was some question about this, but I wouldn't have known that myself. I assumed she was. Mr. JENNER. Well, in order that we are certain we have the same lady in mind, did you learn what her first name was? Mr. GLOVER. Yes. The name she wanted to be called was "Jon," the French J-e-a-n-n-e. I didn't see it written down, but she insisted on her being called "Jon," the French. Mr. JENNER. By American, it is Jeanne? Mr. GLOVER. Jeanne, right. Mr. JENNER. When you talk about ice skating, you mean figure skating? Mr. GLOVER. Figure skating; right. Mr. JENNER. This relationship, at least for a time, was relatively casual? Mr. GLOVER. It was very casual. In fact, they did not seem very much interested in other people. Mr. JENNER. Did that acquaintance ripen eventually into a friendship, or at least a closer relationship than that you have indicated? Mr. GLOVER. Well, there are two phases of my acquaintance with them. The first phase ended when they didn't come to the skating rink any more, and I cannot recall when this was. But if it were necessary to find out, I could possibly find out more in detail, because they joined the Dallas Figure Skating Club which I belonged to, and it was after I had belonged to that organization a year or so that they left.