Mr. PIC. I knew they were married, I don't recall the marriage ceremony. Mr. JENNER. What do you recall about him, sergeant? Mr. PIC. I recall he was an insurance salesman, sir, for the Metropolitan Life Insurance Co. He used to take me on his rounds for collections sometimes. He was very strict with us. We got whippings when we were bad. Mr. JENNER. You don't mean to claim that any of them was undeserved? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Not in the least. Mr. JENNER. I should say this to you, I think. The witnesses all, everybody spoke well of your stepfather. Mr. PIC. That is how I remember him, sir. Mr. JENNER. You were born in New Orleans? Mr. PIC. I was? Mr. JENNER. I am really putting a question mark at the end. Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; I was born at New Orleans. Mr. JENNER. And the family lived in New Orleans? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Were you ever informed by anybody as to the business of your father, not your stepfather but your---- Mr. PIC. My real father? Mr. JENNER. Yes; or occupation? Mr. PIC. From what I was told he was a stevedore and had once been a professional basketball player. This is all I remember ever hearing about him. Mr. JENNER. And this was information that came from primarily your mother? Mr. PIC. From my mother; yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. As a boy as you grew up in New Orleans were you advised whether your father was alive, whether he was in New Orleans or where he was or anything about him in that connection? Mr. PIC. Being the nosy child I was, every once in a while I would look him up in the phone book so I knew he existed. Mr. JENNER. Did you make any inquiries to find out what his business was or occupation? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever make any attempt to go to where he might be working or living to see what he looked like? Mr. PIC. I thought of it several times but I never made an attempt. Mr. JENNER. Were you influenced in this in any respect by your mother? Mr. PIC. No, sir. I do remember on several occasions when we would visit the Lillian Murrets the name would come up that he had visited them, they would see him now and then and, of course, every time this cropped up it made me more inquisitive. Mr. JENNER. You mentioned Lillian Murret, that is your aunt, your mother's sister? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. And her husband is Charles "Dutz" Murret? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. In those early years, did your family reside somewhere near the Murrets? I am going to get into all those addresses if I can, but I am thinking of the overall relationship geographically. Mr. PIC. As I recollect, the house was where Mr. Oswald died, all I know is that it was on the corner of Alvez and Galvez. Mr. JENNER. 2109 Alvar? Mr. PIC. There you go. I think the street that ran next to it was Galvez. Mr. JENNER. You are correct. Mr. PIC. This is the first real--I remember a first real house prior to this, where it was, sir, I don't know. I was about 5 at the time.