Mr. THORNLEY. Mine? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. THORNLEY. I was a sharpshooter. Mr. JENNER. What was his? Mr. THORNLEY. I believe--well, at that time I didn't know. Mr. JENNER. You didn't know. I want your viewpoint as of that time. While you were based at El Toro, did the unit engage with any regularity in rifle practice? Mr. THORNLEY. None whatsoever. At that time, the whole time I was there, we did not engage in rifle practice. Mr. JENNER. As a matter of curiosity on my own part, why was that? Mr. THORNLEY. Well, in the Marine Corps you are required once a year to go to the rifle range and qualify. I was not there an entire year. Point No. 2, this was the Marine air wing which has much less of an emphasis on, in general, on rifle practice because it is not going to be utilized in battle, and a much stronger emphasis, in the case of the outfit we were in, on our particular military occupational specialty. Mr. JENNER. Which was? Mr. THORNLEY. 6749 Aviation Electronic Operator. Mr. JENNER. Was this true when you reached Japan? Mr. THORNLEY. More so. When I reached Japan, however, we did go to the rifle range one time shortly after I got there, and qualify. I recall at that time that in Japan we weren't even having rifle inspections. There you could put your rifle away in your locker and forget about it, and take it out every couple of months and make sure it hadn't corroded away, and put it back again. Mr. JENNER. But you didn't even have rifle inspection? Mr. THORNLEY. Once in a while we would have one, but not with any frequency whatsoever. Mr. JENNER. Were you forewarned so that you could clean your rifle? Mr. THORNLEY. No; usually you were caught unawares, which was why you kept it clean in the locker. Mr. JENNER. I see. What are the grades of marksmanship? Mr. THORNLEY. Marksman, sharpshooter, and expert. Mr. JENNER. Marksman, sharpshooter, and expert. Therefore, I gather from that that marksman was the basic grade. Mr. THORNLEY. Yes. Mr. JENNER. A grade that every marine was expected to, and had to, attain that grade? Mr. THORNLEY. Not had to attain, some didn't, and there was no particular penalty involved, except maybe something a little extracurricular when you were in boot camp. Otherwise, you didn't wear a marksman's medal is all. You didn't have any qualification in the infantry; of course, it would be looked down upon in the case of promotion or something like that. In the air wing it had much slighter significance than that. Maybe if you were being considered for a meritorious promotion and you hadn't qualified you wouldn't get it, but day to day it had no significance. Mr. JENNER. Were the standards applied in the air wing with respect to qualifications for these three classes as severe or as high as the standards applied, let us say, in the Marine infantry? Mr. THORNLEY. Exactly the same; yes.