Mrs. GIBSON. No; I don't think so. I think he came by bus, or walked. That was possible, too. It wasn't that far. Mr. JENNER. Would you locate your apartment at 3519 Fairmont with respect to the location of the Dallas YMCA. That was downtown? Mrs. GIBSON. Well, it was almost downtown. I believe it was on Maple Avenue or very near Maple Avenue. Mr. JENNER. That is, the YMCA was? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; and Maple Avenue, we were only one block off of Maple Avenue. We ran parallel with Maple, Fairmont did, and we were only 1 block off of Maple, and I'd say it was, oh, maybe 12 blocks from the YMCA. Mr. JENNER. An easy walk? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; 12 or 14, maybe farther, but it was not a real long walk. It is possible to walk the distance. Bus service was very frequent and very easy to get. Mr. JENNER. Now, did you become aware, you and your husband, of the fact that Lee obtained a position at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall on the 12th of October? That is while he was at the YMCA, he had already obtained this position and had begun to work at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall? Mrs. GIBSON. He began to work there while he was at the Y? Mr. JENNER. He went to work on the 12th of October 1962. Mrs. GIBSON. Oh my goodness. Well, it is possible that we knew this. I know, I remember that he was employed there because I remember he used to tell Gary how he liked the job, how that interested him. Now, when I thought he was employed there I don't know. I remember when he was at the Y that he was looking for a place to live in the Dallas-Oak Cliff area. Mr. JENNER. Did you or your ex-husband Gary or both of you help him to look? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; I believe one evening we went out with them and looked over the prospective places, places that we knew of, the place where we used to live--and Worthington, and just in the general low-rent area which would be accessible to where he was going to be working. Mr. JENNER. So that you knew at that time where he was working or going to work? Mrs. GIBSON. We knew the location of the place where he was working. Now, I am not sure if we knew that he was working already or if we thought he was still unemployed, not unemployed but already employed but not working yet. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall Mrs. Hall having been involved in an automobile accident? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. That was in October, was it not, 1962? Mrs. GIBSON. I don't know what the month was, but I imagine it was. It must have been in the latter part of October. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall Marina residing with Mrs. Hall? Mrs. GIBSON. She was with Mrs. Hall before the accident and after the accident and while Mrs. Hall was in the hospital she lived at the house. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall also that Mrs. Hall, after she returned from the hospital, went to New York City? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; I do. Mr. JENNER. And that while she was in New York City, that Marina stayed at her home also? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; she did.