Mrs. GIBSON. No; I don't believe we had. We might have. He might have popped in. I don't know. Mr. JENNER. You have mentioned---- Mrs. GIBSON. Is this before he stayed at the YMCA? This is before, isn't it? Mr. JENNER. Yes. To help you in that respect, he stayed at the YMCA October 15 through October 19, 1962. Mrs. GIBSON. He might have popped in. I don't recall whether he did or not. Mr. JENNER. Now, during that period of time, from that Sunday to October 8, had Marina stayed with you? Mrs. GIBSON. No; I don't believe so. Mr. JENNER. You do recall Lee Oswald being in Fort Worth at the YMCA, however, do you? Mrs. GIBSON. In Fort Worth? Mr. JENNER. I mean in Dallas. Mrs. GIBSON. Yes; we took him there. Mr. JENNER. You did take him to the YMCA? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, that was the 15th of October? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. 1962. Where was Marina then? Mrs. GIBSON. She might have been with us at the time. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall whether you went to Fort Worth and picked him up and took him to the YMCA? Mrs. GIBSON. No; I don't believe we did. Mr. JENNER. Give me your best recollection of that circumstance. Mrs. GIBSON. All I can remember is letting him off at the YMCA. I am almost positive we wouldn't go to Fort Worth, though, to pick him up. No; I don't believe so. Mr. JENNER. That was a Monday. Mrs. GIBSON. It was the afternoon when we dropped him at the Y. Mr. JENNER. And you have no present recollection where you picked him up, whether---- Mrs. GIBSON. No. Mr. JENNER. Whether he had come to your house or what the circumstances were? Mrs. GIBSON. No; I sure don't. I think he might have come to our house, but I am not sure. Mr. JENNER. Did Marina stay with you during this October period at all? Mrs. GIBSON. I think she stayed with us the time that he was in the YMCA. Mr. JENNER. That is? Mrs. GIBSON. I think she stayed with us about 5 days. Mr. JENNER. That is 5 days? Mrs. GIBSON. No; I don't believe she stayed with us the full time, no. Mr. JENNER. But she did stay with you during a period? Mrs. GIBSON. A few; yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you have a recollection of how she got there, whether you went or your husband went and picked her up and brought her to your home or whether Lee brought her? Mrs. GIBSON. No; I don't believe Lee brought her. I think it would be more--it would be normal to assume, I don't remember this, that my stepmother or my father must have brought her, because I know we didn't. I don't recall picking her up at all. Mr. JENNER. But she stayed with you then, you think, during the period that he was at the YMCA? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Now, did Lee visit at your home while she was there during this YMCA period? Mrs. GIBSON. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall whether your husband Gary went over to the YMCA and picked him up and brought him to your home?