Mr. PIC. Well, I remember it about 6 months. But I guess that is right. I know he wasn't in there a full 13 months at a clip. He was in and out of there in 13 months. At that school if your parents wanted to take you home for a couple or 3 weeks they took you home for a couple or 3 weeks. Mr. JENNER. And you do remember your mother did that? Mr. PIC. Sure, I am sure he stayed at the Murrets also. Mr. JENNER. Well, the Murrets recall that. Now, I show you an exhibit which we will identify as John Pic Exhibit No. 4 which for purposes of identification is a Xerox duplication of a letter from Mrs. Marguerite Oswald to the Reverend Harold of the Evangelical Lutheran Orphanage Asylum dated February 1, 1945, addressed 4801 Victor, Dallas, Tex. It is in longhand. Would you please examine it for the purpose of answering a question I will put to you as to whether it is in the handwriting of your mother? Mr. PIC. It appears to me, sir; to be her handwriting. Mr. JENNER. I offer in evidence John Pic Exhibit No. 4. (John Pic Exhibit No. 4 was marked for identification.) Mr. JENNER. I have marked as John Pic Exhibit No. 5 another application for admission to Evangelical Lutheran Bethlehem Orphan Asylum Association dated December 23, 1942, for the admission of John Edward Pic and Robert Oswald to that orphanage, but the information on the application is confined to John Edward Pic. Unfortunately, Mr. Pic, this application, for some reason by oversight was not signed by your mother. Do you remember a pastor by the name of Rev. J. H. Nau? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. At the Redeemer Lutheran Church? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. By the way, Mr. Reporter, for purposes of the record, there appears on this application the fact that the marriage of Sergeant Pic's mother Marguerite and his father Edward John Pic, Jr. was at Gulfport, La. Mr. PIC. Mississippi. Mr. JENNER. No, it says Gulfport, La. here and should have been Gulfport, Miss.? Mr. PIC. Yes; Mississippi. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember a pastor by the name of Reverend Scherer? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. The Trinity Evangelical Church. Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember a Rev. M. R. Lecron? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. Of the Redeemer Church? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. By the way, all you boys were christened in the Lutheran church, faith, were you not? Mr. PIC. I don't know or remember if Lee was. I don't know about Lee. Mr. JENNER. The record of the Bethlehem Children's Home show that he was baptized by the Rev. M. R. Lecron of the Redeemer Lutheran Church. The exact date, however, is not given. Mr. PIC. They even have his birthday wrong there. Mr. JENNER. 1 day. They have it as the 19th whereas it was 18th. As a matter of fact, your mother on one of her papers fixes it on the 19th. Mr. PIC. So does one of the letters. Mr. JENNER. I offer John Pic Exhibit No. 5 in evidence. (John Pic Exhibit No. 5 was marked for identification.)