Miss MUMFORD. Well, simply that on arriving on the bus he told us--when we had boarded the bus he had told us that he had turned to the English gentleman and asked "I wonder how you say 'Can I help you' in Spanish." Mr. BALL. You told him when he came back to talk to you that you had had a friend travel in Russia? Miss MUMFORD. Yes. Mr. BALL. And you say you had mentioned her experiences. What did you tell him about that? Miss MUMFORD. Well, we said that she had come back and told us that Moscow was a beautiful city and she had gathered the impression that they were being taken on a tour and shown only what they wanted to be shown. She, being a school teacher, asked a lot of questions of their female guide, and the questions just were evaded or not answered. And she said she got the impression that she was told to say certain things and nothing else. Mr. BALL. Did Oswald make any remark to that? Miss MUMFORD. No; the only remark he made on his life in Moscow was that he had had a lot of trouble getting out. That's all he said. Mr. BALL. Did he make any statement at all concerning his life in the Soviet Union; whether he had enjoyed the stay there or not? Miss MUMFORD. No; he gave me the impression that he was the average, normal American citizen who had gone over there and had wanted to get out and couldn't get out for some red tape reasons. Mr. BALL. Did he say anything or make any mention of politics? Miss MUMFORD. No; never. Mr. BALL. Did he mention anything about communism, socialism, or anything of that sort? Miss MUMFORD. No; he never said anything about his political views or even mention politics at all. Mr. BALL. You did see his passport, though? Miss MUMFORD. Yes. Mr. BALL. How did he happen to show you this passport? Miss MUMFORD. Well, I think it was rather to prove that he had been in Russia. I think he was trying to find places that we hadn't been that he had, and he just--in fact, he left us at the seat to go up and take his passport from his traveling bag and bring it down to show us. Mr. BALL. Had he told you his name before that? Miss MUMFORD. He never mentioned his name once. Mr. BALL. He never did? Miss MUMFORD. He never introduced himself; no. Mr. BALL. How did you know his name? Miss MUMFORD. We didn't. Mr. BALL. Did you notice the name on the passport? Miss MUMFORD. Well, I didn't; no. Pat says it rang a bell when the rest of the business came up, and we recognized him on television. And she said, when the name came through on the television, it did ring a bell with her, but she said even then she couldn't picture that name on the passport. Mr. BALL. You did see the name on the passport, did you? Miss MUMFORD. Well, yes, he must have shown it to us. I can't really remember. Mr. BALL. But you didn't remember the name? Miss MUMFORD. No. Mr. BALL. You made no note of it? Miss MUMFORD. No.