Mr. JENNER. Marilyn, Joyce, John, Gene---- Mr. PIC. Charles. Mr. JENNER. And Charles. They are all alive? Mr. PIC. Right. Mr. JENNER. That was a fairly lively family, apparently all nice people. Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; we enjoyed going there very much. Mr. JENNER. How did Lee get along with them? Mr. PIC. Well, I don't know how he got along with them. I know he was placed there several times to stay for a while. I don't know if the people resented this or was glad to have him or not. Mr. JENNER. Well, they were glad to have him. They appeared to me to be generous people. Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. We always could count on our uncle for a dollar or two. Mr. JENNER. Yes. I take it from the questions I asked you this morning that you had little or no contact with your stepfather's family, with the Oswald family? Mr. PIC. There was no contact that I remember at all, sir, after his death. Prior to his death, there was quite a bit of contact from what I remember. I remember maybe it was his mother, grandmother we would visit. He had this other Oswald who was either a brother or sister or something, we visited these people. I remember the older woman we visited always gave us kids, including me, it was just Robert and I, a whole bunch of toys for Christmas every Christmas. But after his death, there was no contact at all, sir. Mr. JENNER. What is your impression as to why that took place? Mr. PIC. I will speculate and say that---- Mr. JENNER. Give me the impression you have rather than speculate. Mr. PIC. They couldn't get along with Mrs. Oswald. Mr. JENNER. With your mother? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Do you recall an incident, sergeant, when your mother went to work in 1942, and she had a couple, a Mr. and Mrs. Roach taking care of Lee who was then---- Mr. PIC. What was Roach's first name, sir? Mr. JENNER. Thomas. Mr. PIC. What street did he live on? Mr. JENNER. 831 Pauline. Mr. PIC. No, sir; I don't. The only one I could think of that may have taken care of Lee was this milkman Bud and his wife. Mr. JENNER. To help refresh your recollection, it is a fact that your mother lived with Lee at 831 Pauline Street in 1942, and a couple present there by the name of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Roach, Thomas and Dora Roach. They had been living on de Lessups Street in New Orleans, in the 800 block. Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. And moved into 831 Pauline, or your mother moved into 831 Pauline Street with them. There was a whole question as to who was the renter, whether it was the Roaches or your mother? Mr. PIC. No, sir; this I don't recall at all. Mr. JENNER. And it wasn't long after they were there that some difficulty arose with respect to Lee and that ended that. It was about 6 weeks or a month, 2 months. But you have no recollection of that? Mr. PIC. No, sir.