Mr. JENNER. I think that is right. I can't answer. Mr. PIC. Okay. Mr. JENNER. That was one of the reasons why I asked my first question. Mr. PIC. I think that is the way the setup was, sir. Mr. JENNER. I think that is so but I don't know. He would come over from Fort Worth and visit you? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. You boys, when you reached Dallas in 1944, you entered school, grammar school at that time, did you? Mr. PIC. Robert--just a moment, sir; I remember I attended a summer school session of the 6th grade. Robert may have. I don't really remember. I think he did. Mr. JENNER. We are in the summer of 1944? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; we went to summer school. I did, I know. I think he may have. Mr. JENNER. Do you remember that it was the Davy Crockett---- Mr. PIC. No, sir; it was not the Davy Crockett. It was another school. Davy Crockett is where we entered in September. We meanwhile went to summer school. Mr. JENNER. I see. Mr. PIC. If you can give me a map of Dallas? Mr. JENNER. You never heard of it? Mr. PIC. Give me a map of Texas and I can show you where approximately the school was and I will show you where it was. Mr. JENNER. You did, after that summer school period in the summer of 1944, enter grammar school in Dallas? Mr. PIC. That is right. Davy Crockett Elementary School. I entered the 7th grade and Robert entered the 5th. Mr. JENNER. Let's see, Lee is now almost 5 years old. Did he enter Davy Crockett at that time? Mr. PIC. To the best of my recollection, no, sir. Mr. JENNER. At that age he would be going to kindergarten anyhow. All right, you and Robert then entered Davy Crockett? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. You continued on at Davy Crockett in the fall semester? Mr. PIC. Just a moment. Mr. JENNER. Yes? Mr. PIC. This house we went to in Dallas. Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. PIC. My mother owned it and rented the rest of it or she owned one side of it. Mr. JENNER. It was a duplex? Mr. PIC. Right. Mr. JENNER. Myrtle Evans testified that she recalled visiting you, the family, on a trip she made to Dallas on one occasion, on a buying trip or something or accompanied a friend of hers, it was on a ladies' apparel buying trip and she remembered it as what she called them, two-place houses. To me they are duplexes. Mr. PIC. Right; duplex. Mr. JENNER. So her recollection is fairly good then. Does that affect your recollection that it was a four-apartment building rather than it was a two-apartment building? Mr. PIC. I am pretty sure it was four apartments. Mr. JENNER. Okay; go ahead. Mr. PIC. Well, I was under the impression and always have been that she owned the house, and there was some arrangement with Mr. Ekdahl as to how she got it or something. She was renting to one couple upstairs, I know; is this right? Mr. JENNER. Yes. Mr. PIC. We are in Davy Crockett Elementary School, sir. Mr. JENNER. Carry on.