Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; I can get to that. There are things happened prior to that. Mr. JENNER. You did see him---- Mr. PIC. No, sir; I did not see him. I seen my mother. Mr. JENNER. I see. All right; go ahead. Mr. PIC. I returned from Portsmouth, Va., in April 1954, sir; and took up residency at 80 St. Marks Place, Staten Island, N.Y. We returned really to 325 East 92d Street, stayed there a matter of a couple of days until I found us a place to live in Staten Island and then my wife and I moved over to Staten Island leaving my mother-in-law in the apartment, being I felt because my wife had six brothers and sisters that they could worry about her. I didn't see that it was my responsibility much longer. My wife was the youngest child, and we lived there almost 2 years. I was then assigned to the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter _Halfmoon_, which is a weather vessel, and this is where I am in and out for 6-, 7-week periods at a time. It was during this time that she wrote me at the base, my mother, and informed me that they were back in New Orleans, and you have the letters referring to this, sir. It was either sometime in the fall of 1955 or the winter of 1956 that my mother called me from New Orleans. Mr. JENNER. By telephone? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; and said she wanted to visit again. Mr. JENNER. You were then in New York? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; well, Lee was still with her, and my wife frowned upon this, and being that we did have a one-bedroom apartment, and we did have two children at this time there was no way at all we could accommodate two of them. She was very upset about this that I wouldn't have her up. There was nothing I could do about it, though. I knew if she came up they were coming up to stay, and I didn't want a repeat of what we had. So in February 1956, I joined the Air Force and was stationed at Mitchel Air Force Base in New York which is about 30, 40 miles east of New York City. In October 1956, Lee joined the Marine Corps. Mr. JENNER. How did that come to your attention? Mr. PIC. My mother informed me of this fact. Mr. JENNER. By letter? Mr. PIC. We were writing again. So, it was just a matter of corresponding by mail up until the Christmas holidays of 1957 when my mother--let me make sure that date is right--I am fairly certain, sir; that it was the Christmas holidays of 1957 rather than the Christmas holidays of 1958--that she visited us. Mr. JENNER. She did come to New York? Mr. PIC. Right. She come to--we had moved to 104 Avenue C East Meadow, on Long Island. I had two children but we had a 3-bedroom apartment which was part of base housing and we could accommodate her here. She came from Fort Worth when she arrived. Somehow or another between New Orleans and this visit she and Lee had gone back to Fort Worth. Mr. JENNER. You were aware of the fact she had returned to Fort Worth? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. And you learned that through correspondence? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. With her.