Also, I think you will find with myself, Robert and Lee, also, that we didn't have these or don't have these feelings towards money that she does. I mean I live on my base pay and I have for years, and Robert makes the best what he can, and whenever we get together, we never discuss money. The only time I seen Lee as an adult he didn't discuss it, not to the extent that we were used to, we never felt this way. Mr. JENNER. It is your information, is it, that your mother's first marriage was to your father? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Her second, then, to Robert Lee Edward Oswald? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. And her third to E. A. Ekdahl? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. So far as you know she has not been married otherwise than those three occasions? Mr. PIC. No, sir; Has she? Mr. JENNER. We don't know, if she has we don't know anything about it. Did your brother Lee on the occasion on Thanksgiving Day 1962 say anything about whether he had had a hard time in Russia? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. That is a hard time in the sense of earning a living? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Or some other sense? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; earning a living. Mr. JENNER. What do you recall he said in that connection? Mr. PIC. That he made about $80 a month, and it wasn't the money so much. It was the products were not available to him and also his wife to get even with the money, and they consistently ate cabbage and he was tired of cabbage, and he struck me he was not complaining about the money but the availability of food. Mr. JENNER. Is it your impression that he had become disenchanted with Russia? Mr. PIC. Yes; I got this impression. Mr. JENNER. Did you ever hear him say anything while you were boys in which he expressed dissatisfaction with the United States or its Government? Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. He made no comment on that subject when you saw him on Thanksgiving Day 1962? Mr. PIC. I think his only bitter feelings that I recollect was his dishonorable discharge from the Marine Corps. This was the only bitter feelings he reported to me in anyway. Mr. JENNER. I would like to have you tell us what he said as--did he return to that subject repeatedly? What leads you now to conclude or state by way of conclusion that he was bitter about that? Mr. PIC. I think the idea of driving came up, the talk about automobiles. I also think that he made the statement---- Mr. JENNER. When you say that is your present recollection? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. All right. Mr. PIC. I also think that he made the statement that he---- Mr. JENNER. Here, again, you mean to the best of your recollection? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir; to the best of my knowledge, that he made the statement he wasn't driving because of this dishonorable discharge he received. He was unable to obtain a driver's license. Then he told me he was attempting to get this changed, and he had written several letters to the Secretary of the Navy about getting it changed.