Mr. JENNER. Did he mention the then Governor Connally in that connection? Mr. PIC. I believe he did, sir. Mr. JENNER. Governor Connally was not then Secretary of the Navy. Did he express any resentment toward Governor Connally? Mr. PIC. I think when he explained it to me---- Mr. JENNER. Please, you have said again "I think." Mr. PIC. To the best of my recollection, sir, when he mentioned to me that he had written to get it changed, Governor Connally was the Secretary of the Navy. He did mention the name Connally. Mr. JENNER. Did you have any feeling or get the impression that he was bitter toward Governor Connally as a person? He was not, then, of course---- Mr. PIC. No, sir. Mr. JENNER. Secretary of the Navy. Mr. PIC. No, sir; just the fact that the man had the job and he was the man he had written it to. Mr. JENNER. Was anything said about Fair Play for Cuba Committee on this occasion? Mr. PIC. There was no discussion about Cuba. I think this was right after the Cuban crisis, and I think we may have talked about the mobilization a little bit. Mr. JENNER. Did he express any views on that subject? Mr. PIC. No, sir; he didn't. Mr. JENNER. Was President Kennedy discussed at anytime? Mr. PIC. I don't recollect, sir. He struck me on that meeting as really only having two purposes: One, to straighten out the dishonorable discharge and the other one to pay back the Government the money it had lent him to come back to the United States. Mr. JENNER. You were interested--Charlie Murret was a dentist and a graduate of Louisiana State University. Joyce Murret married an athletic coach and lives in Beaumont, Tex.? Mr. PIC. Right. Mr. JENNER. Gene Murret you have mentioned. He is a seminarian at Mobile, Ala. Boogie Murret works for Squibb & Co. He is a graduate of Loyola of New Orleans. Mr. PIC. Someone mentioned, I don't know if it was Vada or my brother, Robert---- Mr. JENNER. On this Thanksgiving Day occasion? Mr. PIC. Yes; after they had left, that Marina's uncle, brother, some relation, was an officer in the Russian Army. She had stated she had a relative in the Soviet armed forces. Mr. JENNER. It was your impression that either Vada had or Robert had? Mr. PIC. Yes, sir. Mr. JENNER. Some of the witnesses have testified that Lee was quick to anger as a boy. Do you remember anything about that? What is your impression about that? Mr. PIC. I don't remember, sir. Mr. JENNER. Was he a considerate young man? Mr. PIC. I think towards Robert and myself he was, sir. Towards other people, no. Mr. JENNER. Was his attitude towards other people different from that which he had toward you and Robert? Mr. PIC. Yes; I believe so. Mr. JENNER. In what respect--what did you notice about him in that regard?