Mr. HUBERT. From the corner which is formed by the intersection of the jail corridor and the Main Street ramp on a line roughly due east or northeast, rather, and another line running along the Main Street ramp, and then another line across the ramp to the wall, how many news people were in that area? Mr. STEVENSON. I would say, and it is purely a guess, from 30 to 40 on the north ramp, Mr. Hubert. Mr. HUBERT. How many people can you estimate could stand abreast along there? Mr. STEVENSON. It is 12 feet and 6 inches wide, the ramp is. I would say 5 people could stand in there side by side. Mr. HUBERT. It actually is a little wider, is it not? Mr. STEVENSON. It is down here. That is why I was looking for another little map I had there. It is 15 and 2 here. Mr. HUBERT. Well, roughly speaking, how many people did you see abreast there, and how many ranks of such people were there? Mr. STEVENSON. I don't know how many ranks there were. I would say there were, counting the officers and the detectives, and that is what I would have to go by, because we had detectives ranging that whole area. I would say they were 6 or 7 or 8 deep. Mr. HUBERT. And about 5 or 6 across? Mr. STEVENSON. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. So that somewhere between 40 and 50 people? Mr. STEVENSON. Possibly; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, in the basement area itself, in, and particularly that portion which faces into the jail corridor, how many people were there? Mr. STEVENSON. I would say, counting police officers and everybody, and again that is what I'd have to go by, I would say there were at least 50 in this area in here. Mr. HUBERT. When you say this area in here, you are describing a semicircle? Mr. STEVENSON. From the two spaces which were cleared in the parking area proper back to---- Mr. HUBERT. Just draw a line. Mr. STEVENSON. [Compliance.] Mr. HUBERT. Would you just mark within that line the number of people that you think were within that space? Mr. STEVENSON. [Compliance.] Mr. HUBERT. Now mark the same way on the Main ramp the number of people that were in the area on the Main ramp? Mr. STEVENSON. [Marking] Well, it is purely a guess. I would say 40 to 50, in that area. Mr. HUBERT. Let me see if I can recapitulate it. On the Main ramp there were between 40 and 50 newspeople standing abreast? Mr. STEVENSON. Not news--police and all. Mr. HUBERT. And news people standing abreast is roughly five to six to seven to eight, perhaps? Mr. STEVENSON. Right. Mr. HUBERT. In this other area which you have marked with a rough semicircle, there were between 50 and 60 people? Mr. STEVENSON. That is an estimate, estimate on it; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, when you came down and observed the moving of the vehicle driven by Dhority, were those people in the ramp and basement area already located there? Mr. STEVENSON. Yes, sir; they were. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what security arrangements had been made with respect to checking the presence of those people?