Captain TALBERT. A reserve officer whose name I do not recall, was placed at a point marked "9," with the instructions not to permit anyone to enter the parking area from the elevators or stairwell. But a reserve officer was placed in the point marked "8." We--I think we have that in the deposition now. Reserve officers were, at that time, brought forward when I asked if the conduits had been searched, the top of the conduits, and--the air-conditioning conduits, if they had been searched. They brought the two reserve officers forward who had the filthiest uniforms. It was quite obvious that they had been crawling around on top of them. They had searched them, and I took their condition to state that their search had been thorough and the fact that Sergeants Putnam and Dean told me that they had covered each one, that the engines, engine compartments, the trucks as well as the vehicles parked in the basement had been searched for possible hiding places, and all of this was accomplished. After the search was accomplished, after officers were placed in the adjacent ramps on the Commerce Street side, on the Main Street side, and from the lobby of the police building marked "10," lobby of the police building into the area in front of the jail office leading into the ramp area--may I mark the places where the officers were now? The reserve officers--we are getting a--can I hold it for a minute? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. (Discussion off the record.) Captain TALBERT. All right, now, I will go ahead and mark the area where we had each---- Mr. HUBERT. Yes; you marked "10," that you had an officer there. Captain TALBERT. I had an officer and--a reserve officer was at "11." Two detectives were--Lowery and Beaty--Beaty and Lowery. "12" and "13" most of this period. Number "14" on the Main Street entrance to the police ramp was Vaughn, R. E. Vaughn, and number "15" and "16" were Patrolman Jez and Patrolman Patterson. Mr. HUBERT. Now, did you ever order the reserve officer at the point "9" removed? Captain TALBERT. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know that he had been? Captain TALBERT. No, sir; at 11 o'clock, when the detail was made up to put traffic men on Elm Street, it was gathered in that area, and that man was in place at that time, at 11. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know that? Captain TALBERT. If he was moved after 11 I don't know who moved him or where he went, but the reserve officer "9" was in place at that time. Mr. HUBERT. You don't know what his name was? Captain TALBERT. I believe Brock is going to be his name, but I am not sure. Mr. HUBERT. I think it is Brock. Now, then, you mentioned something about drawing off persons to patrol the intersection of Elm Street? Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Would you tell us something about that, please?