Mr. ARNETT. In this position [indicating]. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you see anybody standing behind his back? Mr. ARNETT. Did I see anybody behind Ruby's back? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. ARNETT. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, who would have been directly--as you are standing, directly toward Ruby's right, which would be up the Main Street ramp, who would have been standing right in that position along the row that you were in, directly to Ruby's right, toward the Main Street ramp [indicating]? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I named this newsman with a pad, I mean, I said--I didn't know his name. I said he was to my right. Mr. GRIFFIN. To your left? Mr. ARNETT. Yes; left. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, that man was to your left. Was Ruby right in front of him or was he right in front of Captain King? Mr. ARNETT. Well, he was just to the left of Blackie Harrison. Now, whether he was out in front in this manner right in front of King, I wouldn't say for certain [indicating]. Mr. GRIFFIN. Are you able to state whether Ruby was a different man from the man you saw next to you holding the pad? Mr. ARNETT. Well, yes; I would say he was a different man. Mr. GRIFFIN. How are you able to state that? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I don't believe the newsman was dressed like Ruby. Mr. GRIFFIN. But did you see that newsman again? Mr. ARNETT. Did I see him again; is that the question? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. After the shooting? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I couldn't say whether I did or not. Mr. GRIFFIN. How would you describe the dress of that newsman; did he have on a hat? Mr. ARNETT. I don't believe he did. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he wear glasses? Mr. ARNETT. I couldn't say. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he have a suit on? Mr. ARNETT. I thought he had a kind of raincoat, jacket on, something of that type. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you see that man around before Oswald was shot? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I had been in this position, I said 15 minutes, and so far as I know Blackie Harrison had been standing in front of me all that time, and this man beside me, I believe, had been there all this time. I believe they had all been there all this time. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, about 1 minute before Oswald was shot there was a car that drove up and split the lines up? Mr. ARNETT. That's right. I don't know whether it was 1 minute. Mr. GRIFFIN. But shortly before? Mr. ARNETT. Shortly before there was; yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that man standing over next to you before the car went up the ramp; was that man in the raincoat next to you before the car went up the ramp? Mr. ARNETT. I believe so. Mr. GRIFFIN. Are you sure of that? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I think he was. Mr. GRIFFIN. What makes you think he was? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I think I remember him being there with me. Mr. GRIFFIN. Have you talked to Captain King about this man? Mr. ARNETT. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, how long did you remain in the police building after the shooting of Oswald? Mr. ARNETT. After the shooting? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.