Mr. ARNETT. Whenever he shot Oswald, I made a dive for him, and L. C. Graves, the detective, had him, and he had him like this, had the gun like this, and they were scuffling. I got him by the leg. I don't know what leg I got him by, but I got him by the leg, and I would say there were seven or eight of us had ahold of him. We carried him back into the jail office, and while we had him down, handcuffed, he said, "I am Jack Ruby. All of you know me." They had him handcuffed by that time. I turned him loose and walked back over here where Oswald was laying [indicating]. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Now, let me ask you this: how long were you in the building the rest of the day? Mr. ARNETT. I believe I went home about 1:30. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, by the time you went home had you heard any rumors about how Ruby got down into that basement? Mr. ARNETT. That day? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. ARNETT. I don't believe so. I have heard rumors since then, but I didn't that day. Mr. GRIFFIN. Off the record. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. GRIFFIN. Let the record reflect that Mr. Davis has left the room, and I hope the record reflects that we had a short break, a very short break, about 2 minutes, and we are back and ready to go. Would you read the last part back? (The record was here read by the reporter.) Mr. GRIFFIN. I am going to mark for identification, Dallas, Tex., Captain Arnett, 3-25-64, Exhibit 5035, and I am going to hand this to you. I am going to ask you, Captain Arnett, if what I am showing you is the dictaphone belt case with the red arrow on it that you identified earlier in the testimony [indicating]? Mr. ARNETT. Do you want me to initial it [indicating]? Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, is the side which I have got the identification on the side that I showed you? Mr. ARNETT. It was up like this. Yes [indicating]. Mr. GRIFFIN. I mean the side [indicating]. Mr. ARNETT. Oh, yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, would you sign that? Mr. ARNETT. Just sign it? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes, sir. Okay. Now, I am also going to mark for identification, Dallas, Tex., Captain Arnett, 3-25-64, Exhibit 5036. Now, this is the diagram of the basement on which you placed markings indicating where you and Harrison and King and the reporter were standing, [indicating]? Mr. ARNETT. Yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Just before Oswald came out? Mr. ARNETT. [Nods head.] Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, just before Oswald came out, did you see a man right next to Blackie Harrison's left? Mr. ARNETT. To his left? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. ARNETT. As he would face up Commerce Street? Mr. GRIFFIN. As Blackie would face Commerce Street, did you see a man to his left? Mr. ARNETT. Well now, there were men out, you know, on the camera and stuff, to his left, if that's what you are talking about. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see anybody standing to his left, other than men manning the cameras? Mr. ARNETT. Well, I wouldn't say for certain that I did, because he may have been the last one in that row, I don't know.