Warren Commission (12 of 26): Hearings Vol. XII (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (12 of 26): Hearings Vol. XII (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HUBERT. Now, I want--you know, it won't show up on here, so, I
want to show you a map or chart of the basement area and in order to
identify it so that the record may show that we are both talking about
the same thing, I am going to ask you to sign this with me, and I am
marking it, "Dallas, Texas, March 26, 1964." This will be Exhibit 5113,
deposition of A. R. Brock. I am signing my name beneath that and I'll
ask you to sign your name just for the purposes of identification. And
now have a look at the map and I would just like you to put, not one
spot, because obviously, you can't stand in one spot, but just sort
of draw by making sort of an area, circle or oblong just the way you
walked and watched.
Mr. BROCK. What I done, I was in a position here. I didn't move out of
it.
Mr. HUBERT. All right, you can mark it then. Just put a circle.
Mr. BROCK. I would stay in this position where I could watch the stairs
and the elevator, too.
Mr. HUBERT. You are facing, most of the time, toward Main Street?
Mr. BROCK. Well, I would be facing one or the other there.
Mr. HUBERT. Where you marked the circle, I am drawing a line from it,
then I am writing, "Position of A. R. Brock during the time he was
guarding elevators and staircase." Right?
Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. I am putting a circle around that language and connecting
it by a line to the circle that you drew showing your position. I
think you have testified that all the time you were there, the regular
service elevators, which are on this chart, denoted as elevators Nos. 1
and 2, weren't working at all?
Mr. BROCK. They never opened them the entire time.
Mr. HUBERT. Did anybody go up or down the staircase here, which I am
marking by putting in "X"?
Mr. BROCK. No one went in or downstairs on the staircase.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever--did you observe this first aid station?
Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. Did you see anybody come in or go out of that the whole
time you were there?
Mr. BROCK. At the time that I was assigned there, the doctor was in the
first aid station, and Sergeant Putnam contacted him and told him he
would have to leave the basement area.
Mr. HUBERT. So, he got out?
Mr. BROCK. No one entered after that.
Mr. HUBERT. By the way, I think you stated the time that you were
posted, but let's repeat it to be sure.
Mr. BROCK. I think it was about 9:30.
Mr. HUBERT. And you stayed there how long?
Mr. BROCK. Oh, I believe it was 10:45 when I left there.
Mr. HUBERT. All right, now. Was there any--any people either entered or
left this service elevator during the time you were there?
Mr. BROCK. When I first got down there there were three city employees
and the elevator operator standing there at the door of the elevator
around in front, looking around, just seeing what was going on and
shortly after I got there, I told them they would have to leave the
basement.
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