Mr. HUBERT. Were they in some kind of a janitorial uniform so that you could tell that they were employees? Mr. BROCK. I have seen them before. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know their names? Mr. BROCK. No, sir; I don't know. Mr. HUBERT. Men and women? Mr. BROCK. There was one woman. I haven't seen her before, but from what I gather, the way she was talking to the others, she was a telephone operator there at the city hall. Mr. HUBERT. White woman? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Were they all white people? Mr. BROCK. No, sir; there was one building engineer. Engineer, I believe, is what he was called--a white man. There was a Negro, two Negroes, one was the elevator operator, one parked cars in the basement there. Mr. HUBERT. Well, you made them all go upstairs? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Did they come down any more? Mr. BROCK. The elevator came down one other time. Sergeant Putnam brought one of the TV men over there, wanted to go up the fourth--fifth floor to do some kind of work with the equipment there, and the elevator come and picked him up and went up and brought him back in a few minutes, and that was the only person went up or down the elevator. Mr. HUBERT. As long as you were there? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Did you all give the elevator operator any instructions about what he was to do? Mr. BROCK. We told him to take it up on the first floor and not bring it back in the basement, that is, open the door of it in the basement. Mr. HUBERT. That was after the TV man had been brought up and down? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. In other words, at that point, after the TV man had been brought up and down, he was issued instructions, "Now, don't come down here any more." Mr. BROCK. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. And all the time you stayed there he didn't? Mr. BROCK. It didn't come down any more. Mr. HUBERT. Who got off of that spot at 10:45? Mr. BROCK. Sergeant Putnam. Mr. HUBERT. Where did he put you after that? Mr. BROCK. He assigned me over to a traffic intersection where the auto was going to take to the city jail--county jail. Mr. HUBERT. And you went and helped there? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. You drove? Mr. BROCK. My partner drove; M. L. Wise drove my car. Mr. HUBERT. Dropped you off? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Where did he drop you off? Mr. BROCK. Elm and Ervay. Mr. HUBERT. And you stayed there for how long? Mr. BROCK. Until about 11:30. Mr. HUBERT. Who relieved you then? Mr. BROCK. 11:30 my partner picked me up and reported to Parkland. Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay at Parkland? What time did you get there and what time did you leave, we'll put it that way. Mr. BROCK. I would just be guessing. Stayed there probably an hour or hour and a half. Mr. HUBERT. Did you see any reserve officers around? Mr. BROCK. Where? Mr. HUBERT. Parkland? Mr. BROCK. There was lots of officers out there. I don't remember seeing any reserve officers out there.