Mr. HUBERT. Actually, can you tell the difference from the uniforms? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. What? The badge? Mr. BROCK. They have a patch on their arm that says, "Dallas Police Reserve Officer," or "Reserve Officer," of some sort and they don't carry guns. All they carry is a nightstick. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know a reserve officer by the name of Newman? Mr. BROCK. No, sir; I don't. I don't know any of them, I don't guess, by name, that I can recall right now. Mr. HUBERT. All right. Did you see another officer on duty in the basement but closer to the ramp that runs between Main and Commerce? Mr. BROCK. There was a, I believe, a reserve officer standing somewhere in this area. Mr. HUBERT. Now, the arrow points--let the record show that the arrow pointed to by the witness is being marked by me with a circle, and I am writing, "Position of Reserve Officer, as testified to by A. R. Brock," and I am putting a circle around that language and connecting it with this smaller circle. Do you know that reserve officer's name? Mr. BROCK. No, sir; I just noticed him there. I didn't---- Mr. HUBERT. Did he stay there about the same time you did? Mr. BROCK. I believe he was still there or somewhere in that area when I left, and there was another reserve officer assigned in this area here [indicating], because he was walking around, back and forth in this area around the staircase and around where I was assigned, also. Mr. HUBERT. Well, suppose I draw a line, I will start the line with "1," and---- Mr. BROCK. I would say he went over in this area rather than come up on it this way. Mr. HUBERT. He went out to about the place marked "2" and I am putting the number "1" and "2" in a circle. Now, the line "1" and "2" is where you saw this reserve officer walking up and down? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. But, you don't know his name? Mr. BROCK. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Was he there when you first got there? Mr. BROCK. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. He came later? Was he there when you left? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, I think you have read these two statements? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. I want to mark them for identification as follows: "An FBI report of an interview of you made by FBI Agents Wilkinson and Hardin on December 4, 1963, for identification. I am marking it, "Dallas, Tex., March 26, 1964. Exhibit No. 5114, deposition of A. R. Brock." And signing my name underneath it. It has two pages, and so, I am placing my initials in the left-hand corner on the second page, and I'm also marking for identification what seems to be a copy of a letter dated November 26, addressed to Chief Curry, the original, apparently, has been signed by you, and I am marking it, "Dallas, Tex., March 26, 1964, Exhibit No. 5115, deposition of A. R. Brock." I am signing my name. It has only one page. Now, I understand that you have read both of these documents? Mr. BROCK. Yes, sir.