Mr. GRIFFIN. When you walked out on the sidewalk and were talking about this 10:45 trip down to the basement, what did you do? Chief BATCHELOR. I turned around and walked back in there. They had parked Chief Curry's car out east of the Commerce Street ramp on the street, double parked, parallel to some parked cars that were already there. Then I drove my car out of the basement and parked it west of the Commerce Street ramp exit, and I double parked it also right behind his, the intention being that when this convoy came out, that he would lead off and I would drop in behind Chief Curry with Chief Stevenson. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you mark on the map where Chief Curry's car was and where your car was placed on Commerce Street? Chief BATCHELOR. This confuses me a little here. There is not any offset. Mr. GRIFFIN. Unfortunately, this black line that confuses you represents a basement wall. It doesn't represent the street. Chief BATCHELOR. [Marks on map.] Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do after you moved your car out on Commerce Street? Chief BATCHELOR. Shortly after that just within a few minutes these armored cars arrived. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where were you standing when the armored cars arrived? Chief BATCHELOR. I was in the basement, but somebody told me down there, shouted that these armored cars had arrived, so I came up again out of the ramp to look at the two cars to see which one we wanted. I looked in the inside of the larger armored car and decided that this one is the one we would have to use because it had room not only for the prisoner, but two guards to be placed in there with him. And this one--Mr. Hall, I believe is his name--I think it is Mr. Hall that drove the truck up there. And this truck was too large or too tall to drive clear to the foot of the basement ramp. It wouldn't clear this ceiling at that point, so I asked Mr. Hall to back it in, and he started backing it in, and he got the truck inside of the ramp with all of the body inside and the cab on the outside, on the sidewalk. He stopped and suggested that he not go to the bottom of the ramp with it because of its weight. He was afraid that in trying to pull out, he might kill the motor and stall it on the ramp, and suggested that since it blocked the entrance, if we could use it from that point, he would rather it go from that point. Mr. GRIFFIN. At the point this conversation took place, had you or anyone else to your knowledge told Hall what route would be taken? Chief BATCHELOR. No; we told him he would follow a lead car, and pointed out the car that he would follow. Mr. GRIFFIN. At that point, did you indicate to him how soon it would be before Oswald would be brought down?