Mr. HUBERT. Sort of from the corner there? Mr. COMBEST. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. I would like for you to take the pen and mark an "X" on the spot that you first saw Ruby. Mr. COMBEST. About approximately [indicating], because---- Mr. HUBERT. This was really the front line "1," through "2." Mr. COMBEST. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. And I'm writing on the map, "Position where Ruby was first seen by Combest." Was he standing still then? Mr. COMBEST. No, sir; he was stepping forward and--or lunging forward, I guess would be the best way to put it. Mr. HUBERT. You had not seen him, of course, prior to that moment? Mr. COMBEST. No, sir; I had not. Mr. HUBERT. Had you seen him in the crowd at all? Mr. COMBEST. No, sir; I had not. Mr. HUBERT. Had you seen him coming down? Mr. COMBEST. No, sir; when I was standing with the crowd I couldn't see the ramp there, the Main Street ramp. Mr. HUBERT. You could see a part of it, couldn't you, the bottom? Mr. COMBEST. Well, no, sir; it slanted up and they had an air conditioner sitting across here where you have to be almost in your--standing directly in the bottom of the ramp you couldn't see the top of it very clearly. Mr. HUBERT. But, you testified that you knew Ruby's face well enough so that you could distinguish it in a crowd? Mr. COMBEST. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. You had looked into that crowd and your eyes had become accustomed to the lights? Mr. COMBEST. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, I ask you if you saw him in the crowd before he lunged forward? Mr. COMBEST. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Do you think you would have seen him had he been in that crowd during the 15 minutes or so prior to that shot, the shooting? Mr. COMBEST. Quite possibly if he had been there very long I believe I would have spotted him. I might not have, but knowing that he didn't belong there I believe I would have spotted him right off. Mr. HUBERT. Well, now, what precautions were taken to assure that people who did not belong there would not be there? Mr. COMBEST. Well, everyone that went out into the basement from the jail office had to have the press card, proper identification showing that they were members of the press and police officers. Other than that no one was admitted to the basement parking area. Mr. HUBERT. What kind of press cards were honored, and what were dishonored? Mr. COMBEST. Well, most of the news personnel there had the--had a press card for that--I don't remember the wording. It was something about--"Presidential press party," or something that they had. Of course, it was recognized and then any other card that did have their picture on it, and it had to say they were a member of a press, any newspaper. I remember the Oklahoma City newspaper came in, and they were admitted with their press cards. Mr. HUBERT. Did they have to have their picture on the press cards?