Mr. GRIFFIN. In other words, one straggled line, this first line in front of you? Mr. CROY. What do you mean? Mr. GRIFFIN. Are you stating there was a fairly solid front line of people? Mr. CROY. About two deep. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you behind that group of people? Mr. CROY. I was behind them. Mr. GRIFFIN. How far behind them were you? Mr. CROY. Oh, a couple of feet or 3 feet. Mr. GRIFFIN. Back where you were standing, were people as closely bunched up as other people were? Mr. CROY. There wasn't anyone to my left other than the two people I told to move back. To my right there were several other officers standing there with me. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was Captain Arnett one of the officers? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you show us where Captain Arnett was? Mr. CROY. [Marks.] Mr. GRIFFIN. How many people were to Captain Arnett's right? Mr. CROY. I don't know. Mr. GRIFFIN. You say there was nobody to your left except a man with a movie camera? Mr. CROY. He got back upon the railing. Mr. GRIFFIN. At the time this man got up on the railing, there was nobody that you can recall to your left? Mr. CROY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, will you place on the map, on that chart, where you think Ruby, where you saw this man that you believe to be Ruby, moved from and to? Could you show us where? Mr. CROY. Do you mean after I told him to move? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. CROY. I don't know where he moved to. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where was he when you first saw him moving? Did you see him moving? Mr. CROY. Maybe I don't understand you. As he ran into the crowd? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes, sir. Mr. CROY. After Oswald? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. CROY. Where did I see him again? About right there [pointing]. Mr. GRIFFIN. Up in front of you? Mr. CROY. Yes; well, to my side. Mr. GRIFFIN. To your left? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Would you put a "R" there where you saw him? Mr. CROY. [Makes mark.] Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, was there anybody in front of him at that point? Mr. CROY. Yes; there was reporters. Mr. GRIFFIN. There were reporters. Now, what did he do as he got to these reporters? Mr. CROY. He ran through them. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he push them aside, or what? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see him push them? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see a man shoved? Mr. CROY. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Which man got shoved? Mr. CROY. These reporters. He just lowered his head and ran through them like a fullback went through a line. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you feel this man move by you, or did you first see his motion when he was in front of you? Mr. CROY. Caught a glimpse of his motion. I have a wide range. I could see over here. I saw a blur coming in, and, of course, by the time I turned, he was in position. He was already in front of me. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, you can't tell from how far he had been running, can you? Mr. CROY. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you able to tell if he had taken more than one step before you had seen him?