In doing this, we have had hundreds of interviews conducted by various members of the Federal investigatory agencies, and perhaps hundreds is an understatement. It may be thousands. We have a stack of documents over in a corner that would frighten you. It just represents people who have been talked to by the various Federal Bureaus. Now we are undertaking to talk to a few other people that we think are particularly central in terms of having information that would be useful. As to you, Mr. Cutchshaw, we have asked you to come here because we want to ascertain what you know in particular about the death of Oswald, and we also, however, want any pertinent facts that you may have that would bear upon the entire picture. You have been asked to appear here as a result of a letter which was mailed to Chief Curry in the form of a general request from Mr. J. Lee Rankin, who is the general counsel of the President's Commission. Actually, under the rules adopted by the Commission you are entitled to get a personal letter from the Commission, and 3 days before you testify here. However, the rules do provide that you can waive that particular letter, or 3-day written notice. Now, the first thing I want to ask you is if you would like us to send you a letter, or if you prefer to waive the 3-day notice? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I will waive that notice. Mr. GRIFFIN. Also, the rules of the Commission provide that you are entitled to be represented by counsel at any time, and many of the people do have attorneys here. I want you to feel that we welcome your availing yourself of this opportunity if you want to, but I see that you are not here with an attorney, and I presume by that fact that you have decided that you don't want one. But if you do feel that you would like one, please feel free to indicate right now and we will certainly---- Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I don't feel I need one. Mr. GRIFFIN. Okay, let me ask you to raise your right hand and swear you in. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I do. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you state your full name? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Wilbur Jay Cutchshaw. Mr. GRIFFIN. When were you born, Mr. Cutchshaw? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. May 27, 1923. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where do you presently live? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. 401 Southwest 22d, Grand Prairie, Tex. Mr. GRIFFIN. What is your occupation? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Police officer, Dallas, Tex. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long have you been with the police department? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. A little over 9 years. Mr. GRIFFIN. Are you in any particular bureau of the police department? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Criminal investigation division, juvenile bureau. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you hold any particular rank in the department? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Detective. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long have you been with the juvenile bureau? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. About 2-1/2 years. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where were you the time before that?