Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Radio patrol. Mostly working in the West Dallas area. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever work in the downtown Dallas area? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I think I worked downtown there for about a month. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you know Jack Ruby before the time he shot Lee Oswald? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I had seen him one time before. Mr. GRIFFIN. Where was that? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. At the Carousel on Commerce. Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you happen to see him? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I went up in his place one night. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long was that before he shot Oswald? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. That's been about 2-1/2 years ago, the first time I saw him. Mr. GRIFFIN. I am going to mark for the purpose of identification a copy of an interview report prepared by FBI Agents Mabey and Hughes, purporting to report an interview they had with you on December 2, 1963. I am marking this "Dallas, Tex., Detective Cutchshaw, 3-26-64, Exhibit 5042." I have marked for identification the interview report of December 2, 1963, by Mabey and Hughes as Exhibit 5042. I have marked what purports to be a copy of a letter signed by you to Chief Curry, dated November 24, 1963, as Exhibit 5043. And I have marked as Exhibit 5044 a copy of a report by FBI Agent James W. Bookhout, relating to an interview that Bookhout had with you on November 24th. That is Exhibit 5044. Now, have you had a chance to look over these two interview reports and a copy of your letter? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Right. Mr. GRIFFIN. Are there any additions or corrections that you would want to make in those documents? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. I couldn't see any that I would want to make. Mr. GRIFFIN. Okay; now, you were up in the juvenile bureau all of Sunday morning until you were called down in the basement; is that right? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, during the period that you were up there, do you recall who was on duty? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Well, let's see. Officer Goolsby was working the desk, and Lowery and myself and Harrison and Miller, I believe it was, and, oh, yes, June McLine, a policewoman. Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you recall when it was that you first had any information that Lee Oswald might be moved to the county jail? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. All I can remember is that Chief Stevenson came up and told us he wanted us all to stay up in the office, and at that time it was about 9 o'clock, I believe it was. And he said that they had to form a security when they moved Oswald, but as far as knowing exactly what time, I didn't. Mr. GRIFFIN. How do you place it? What makes you say that he came up about 9 o'clock? Mr. CUTCHSHAW. Because I remember that he said we had to be there between, I believe it was, 9 and 10, and so I looked out the window at the clock, but I didn't have my watch, because I had these trousers that didn't have a watch pocket, because I have a pocket watch. I don't have a wrist watch, and out the window we have a sign that has a big clock. I said I better call the boys from the cafe.